Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Saint George S.C. players


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 22:30, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

List of Saint George S.C. players

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No evidence this list of self-selected players meets the WP:LISTN. Let&#39;srun (talk) 20:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Football, Lists,  and Ethiopia. Let&#39;srun (talk) 20:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete – Zero notability, a category for the players from this club is enough. Svartner (talk) 22:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 14:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 14:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep This is the top football team in Ethiopia, and is well sourced. I fail to see why WP:LISTN doesn't apply here. SportingFlyer  T · C  02:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep—I tend to agree with SportingFlyer. I'm not sure how this can be see has having "zero notability" if it is the best football team in Ethiopia. It is also universally discussed "as a group or set" by nature, working it into the threshold of WP:NLIST. I think this falls under WP:BIAS to a large degree, as well. Anwegmann (talk) 04:03, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per SportingFlyer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: The current arguments to keep are fairly weak: are there independent sources for the list entries? Maybe we can come to a consensus by remedying this apparent lack of independent coverage (or by determining that there is not significant independent coverage). Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Malinaccier ( talk ) 01:47, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. The club was founded in 1935 and such a list would purport to include players from the club's entire existence. There is a huge WP:V barrier that I don't see this list overcoming. How to verify which players played for Saint George SC, how many matches (i.e. who surpassed the 50-match mark, 100, 250 etc.) and when? To me that would seem equally impossible as maintaining and updating the list. Finally, deleting it removes nothing of value, as a category does the job much better. Geschichte (talk) 14:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete According to Wikipedia's notability guidelines, lists of people, including players of sports teams, must demonstrate significant coverage in independent, reliable sources to warrant inclusion. Upon review, the article lacks sufficient citations from such sources to establish the notability of individual players. While Saint George S.C. is a notable club, the roster of its players as presented does not meet the threshold for inclusion as per Wikipedia's policies on verifiability and notability. Therefore, based on the current state of the article and the adherence to Wikipedia's guidelines, deletion is warranted unless substantial, reliable sources are provided to establish the significance of the players listed. This action ensures the integrity and reliability of information presented on Wikipedia, maintaining standards of verifiability and notability across all articles.Yakov-kobi (talk) 19:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That's not really true - lists do not need to demonstrate the notability of individual items. Furthermore there's plenty of sources in the article such as which clearly shows by listing all of the Ugandans which have played for the club that the information is available, probably in Amharic. SportingFlyer  T · C  16:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yakov-kobi: Please stop posting AI-generated comments in AfD. Doczilla  Ohhhhhh, no! 05:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.