Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Scottish place names in Canada


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The result was keep. but surgically remove anything unsourced &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 07:06, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

List of Scottish place names in Canada

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WP:STAND states that stand-alone lists must be verifiable and not contain original research. This article is so completely unsupported, and so entirely violates No original research, that it should not be saved. This article appears to be a list of places in Scotland, which coincidentally have a similarly named place in Canada. There is nothing to support that the place in Canada is, in fact, a Scottish name, or that the place in Canada was chosen "by Scottish emigrants or explorers". For example, Scotch Block, Ontario had been on the list until I deleted it. I was unable to find any source indicating that "Scotch Block" in Ontario was named after some place in Scotland; it was named Scotch Block because it was settled by Scottish immigrants. Almost none of the target articles listed say anything about being named by a Scot, or being named after some place in Scotland. The article is completely misleading, and violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:22, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You have a really good point. for example, article includes a Stirling with a handsome photo of  Stirling Agricultural Village, I clicked and it is clear tha tthe Canadian place was name for a man named Stirling, not for Stirling, Scotland.  Similarly, I see a Napier listed, but almost places named Napier are named for one of the several famous British Napiers.   Terrible, terrible article. However, it's a real topic. (see my comments below).E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:44, 2 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OR and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. This appears to be a list of Scottish-sounding place names, based on the article creator's opinion. Exemplo347 (talk) 16:54, 2 April 2017 (UTC) See my comment below. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:06, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep and tag for better sourcing. There are an awful lot of Scottish place names in Canada, and this is quite a usual type of article for us. See: Category:Scottish place names in other countries.  List of Spanish place names in Canada is better sourced, and could be a model for improving this.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:02, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting almost all info keeping title and anything else that is reliably sourced - for which purpose I just sourced Calgary.  My reason for preferring this to deletion is that rather than annoying users who look for such a page, by showing the way place names should be sourced we can hope that editors and even new users will take a minute to add the town that they expected to find.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:36, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support - This may be the best alternative, but would likely mean deleting nearly the entire article. I would withdraw my nomination but another editor had voted to delete as well.  Thank you for suggesting this.  Magnolia677 (talk) 18:02, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * True, but you were right to say that the text is WP:OR, not to mention filled with misinformation., would you be willing to revisit?E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:01, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course, taking a flamethrower to the article and rebuilding it with a clear inclusion criteria (to satisfy WP:INDISCRIMINATE) and reliably sourcing things to clear out any WP:OR concerns is preferable to deletion. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:06, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:05, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:05, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:05, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:28, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Yes, I'm certainly fine with pruning and referencing, but I can't see how we can have both Category:Scottish place names in other countries (a category "for lists and general articles") and Category:Lists of Canada placename etymologies, yet exclude a List of Scottish place names in Canada. List improvement not deletion is the correct course, surely. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * On that note, I see the Canadian Encyclopedia has Names of Anglo-Celtic Origin, with links to a lot of some individual cities and towns... Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:54, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


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