Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Shia mosques in National Capital Region (India)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

List of Shia mosques in National Capital Region (India)

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A plain violation of WP:NOTDIRECTORY; it's largely empty anyway, but no place cited has an article or for that matter even a red link (probably because 95% are not notable). There are probably other related problem articles but this one came to my attention by being cited as justification for keeping a similarly problematic article. Mangoe (talk) 13:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Additional Comment I am not entirely sure of this because of the atypical transliterations used, but the headers for the tables in the article apparently indicate what sort of facilities and services are offered at each mosque. Mangoe (talk) 11:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - This list contains several notable mosques e.g. Shia Jama Masjid is more than 250 years mosque and central mosque for Shia community of Delhi region, same is with Hawza-e-Panja Shareef which is local learning centre and is more than 300 years old, here Shahid Rabay is buried, Shah-e-Marda'n is also more than 150 years old shrine. I created this list as starting point for these articles and to have repositiory of these notable mosques but due to my movement from Delhi to Bangalore and my recent attention to other articles I have been not able to do the job. -- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider t c s 14:51, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes List of Shia mosques in the NCR should be moved to List of Shia mosques in National Capital Region (India); I overlooked the ambiguity while creating the article; once this dispute is resolved I will move it to non-ambigous title (if already not moved).-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider t c s 14:14, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


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 * Keep Useful list. Maybe Rename to List of Shia mosques in the National Capital Region. Rabbabodrool (talk) 22:44, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 03:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep But, Renaming to List of Shia mosques in the National Capital Region will not srve the purpose, as the phrase National Capital Region is ambiguous. Propose renaming to List of Shia mosques in National Capital Region (India)--  WorLD8115  ( TalK )   12:14, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Comment the article was moved in the middle of the discussion. Mangoe (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - clear example of WP:NOTDIR. Mostly empty tables, plus a whole lot of this stuff is complete gibberish to the average reader. Translation of the title to Hindi and Urdu makes no sense here, and the column title for each table, aside from Area and Mosque, have no meaning to the average reader. What the heck is Namaz-e-Jam'at? What does it mean to have a large green check or a large red X in that category? There are only two mosques with their own article, thus even as a list article it has no reason to be there.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 15:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think there is being attempt to delete this article as this discussion was closed by a person who later moved the article and then relisted article for deletion, and a comment was given that the article was moved in the middle of the discussion. The article was not moved in the middle of the discussion, here is timeline of close, move & relisting:
 * Discussion was closed as keep at 2010-05-01 03:34:12
 * Article was moved at 2010-05-01 22:38:17
 * Article was relisted for deletion at 2010-05-02 09:09:56
 * This list contains several notable mosques e.g. Shia Jama Masjid is more than 250 years mosque and central mosque for Shia community of Delhi region, same is with Hawza-e-Panja Shareef which is local learning centre and is more than 300 years old, here Shahid Rabay is buried, Shah-e-Marda'n is also more than 150 years old shrine. I created this list as starting point for these articles and to have repositiory of these notable mosques. I have already created articles for two and I'm in process of doing same for others. The headers for the tables in the article indicate what sort of facilities and services are offered at each mosque (e.g. Namaz-e-Jam'at, Namaz-e-Juma & Namaz-e-Eid'ain) and what sort of entities they hold(e.g. Karbala & Imambara). -- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider t c s 09:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Please go read Wikipedia is not a directory before continuing the discussion. Then go read Articles for deletion/Orthodox parishes in Washington D.C. and note the outcome. The two situations are not significantly different: most churches in DC, Orthodox or not, are not notable, and I imagine that most mosques in any region, Shiite or not, are not notable. Mangoe (talk) 10:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * May be you are right for the article you quoted above but the places listed(although, I admit that all these mosques are not very important) in the article List of Shia mosques in National Capital Region (India) have historic importance(apart from religious) due to their startigic placement at Old Delhi area and their association with movements & people of importance both historic & contemporary. -- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider t c s 10:55, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I would like to point out that this is the second keep vote in this AfD by Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider, thus it should be taken into account that it is a duplicate "vote".--70.80.234.196 (talk) 11:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:N. With regards, AnupamTalk 16:22, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - with zero sources and only two mosques with articles, how does this pass WP:N?
 * Keep, this article lists important mosques only, there are several minor/common/non-important mosques in the region which are not listed in this list. So it should be not deleted as per WP:N. --115.108.9.141 (talk) 16:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
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