Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Singapore Premier League hat-tricks


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The result was merge and redirect to Singapore Premier League. Not sure why this was extended, neither of the two keep votes offered any kind of sourcing to show that hat tricks in the singapore league have gained independent coverage to satisfy WP:NLIST. Under the name "Singapore Premier League", this competition has only been in existence for a year, so the merge arguments are clearly stronger. This should not preclude editors from creating another fork if they wanted to create a list that also includes the s league so long as they can show coverage to satisfy NLIST and apso avoid any WP:NOTSTATS concerns. Fenix down (talk) 19:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

List of Singapore Premier League hat-tricks

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Contested PROD. Concern was The list is incomplete, and shows no sign of significant coverage. The subject has not received significant coverage beyond routine match day reporting. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:26, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Merge to Singapore Premier League, not clear that this is a notable topic as a stand-alone list. Reywas92Talk 23:27, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or perhaps merge at most. GiantSnowman 08:49, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. These lists are regular amoung professional leagues, there is a whole category just for them. Sourcing needs improvement but hasn't been given the time to get that yet. There is no deadline here and incomplete lists can be expanded, the whole encyclopedia is not finished. Borgarde (talk) 14:44, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge to Singapore Premier League which is just 50k bytes right now. If there are more "hat-tricks" then we can think again about creating a stand-alone page. शिव साहिल/Shiv Sahil (talk) 15:21, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge - a bit premature to create this when there have only been 5 hat-tricks -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge - would be better to have more hat tricks, more content. robertsky (talk) 06:44, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Borgarde, prod rationale was spurious in suggesting delete because incomplete. There is no time limit on completion - if one thinks it's incomplete one should consider completing it. Doesn't matter there has been only 5: what is the cut off to keep these lists? 6? 10? 20?. I'd argue that as there have only been 5 they are more notable than some of the other ones where they are a dime-a-dozen. Don't see how Singaporean 1st tier hattricks are any less notable than English 4th tier hat tricks, A-League hat tricks, I-League hattricks or Algerian hattricks. Don't see those pages being nominated for deletion. Systemic bias...Hattricks are considered notable. There is even a page for Lists of hat-tricks. Club Oranje T 10:01, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * While we're listing invalid reasons for deletion, WP:OTHERSTUFF. To show notability of a list, there must be coverage that discusses the subject of the list, not just the entries on it. There's no indication that this is the case here. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:51, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, whatever. So are you arguing that Singaporean hattricks are not notable even though other ones are with your OTHERSTuFF argument? Because EVERYONE above is suggesting it is notable enough to keep, probably because it is all notable stuff, it's just that half of them think the list is too short to waste a whole page on and want to put it on the same page as other information because, well I don't know why, I can only speculate maybe to save a tree. Half of them are saying keep the separate page if there are more hattricks in the list. Pretty sure that as time goes by there will be more hattricks in the list. End of the day if it's notable enough to keep then it can be as a list as it fulfills WP:LISTPURP. Club Oranje T 08:59, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: We need to establish consensus whether to keep or merge the article.

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