Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Skulduggery Pleasant characters (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I'm willing to send a copy to anyone who wants to put it on a fan-wiki, assuming there is one. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 03:43, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

List of Skulduggery Pleasant characters
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Double checked and could not find sufficient coverage in third party sources to establish WP:NOTABILITY for these characters. There are a few passing mentions, but nothing to create enough out-of-universe context to meet the standards of WP:NOTPLOT and WP:WAF. This kind of passing mention is already described in each book's plot summary and doesn't meet Wikipedia's standards for an independent article. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:35, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  userdude 01:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  userdude 01:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 06:46, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete, an unsourced mess that fails WP:LISTN and WP:PLOT. Since it is completely unsourced, there is nothing to merge and there is no suitable redirect target. Devonian Wombat (talk) 09:47, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: perhaps ideally this would be merged in a severely shortened form (i.e. as a bullet-point list), since there's no reason the Skulduggery Pleasant article shouldn't contain a list of characters, and it's reasonable to point a reader who searches for this to that content; and if anyone wants to do that they have my support. But it's probably unreasonable to expect anyone to actually pick out what's worth merging from this leviathan, and probably unlikely that anyone trying to add such a list to the main article would find this list particularly useful. (For what it's worth, I think arguments about notability miss the point to an extent when it comes to articles like this, since a list of characters might reasonably be split off a larger article per WP:SIZESPLIT when article size demands, and a rare notable list of characters would still belong in broader articles per WP:PAGEDECIDE. In other words, if WP:SIZESPLIT mandated the main article be split, having an article on this topic could be reasonable, but it doesn't, so it's not.) – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Absolute Keep: There is clearly enough information and history here to warrant the article, which exists and has been contributed to for well over a decade. 2606:6000:6205:4D00:DC46:27E3:2CFC:5806 (talk) 18:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Thousands of words of unsoruced WP:FANCRUFT. This should be on a Fan Wiki and not on Wikipedia. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 02:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. In some ways it feels like a shame to remove what would surely be a beloved gem n a fan wiki -- those tables have been lovingly crafted in incredible detail. Unfortunately, however, this is not a fan wiki, and this articles doesn't even really attempt to claim notability or an encyclopedic point of view. Overwhelming amounts of detail almost all in in-universe POV, with no sourcing. I agree with Arms & Hearts that perhaps ideally some of this would be merged into the series article, but the task seems daunting, and it would probably even be easier to write a new list of characters for that article from scratch if the article needed one.  ~ oulfis 🌸 (talk) 05:28, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


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