Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Soccer Bowl broadcasters


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to North American Soccer League on television. Consensus is clearly to remove this article. No one has actually suggested redirect, but enough have made the case for merge (although without agreement on where to merge it) that a redirect would allow preservation of accessible content should someone choose to put in the work to merge any of it into another article. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 21:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

List of Soccer Bowl broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE and WP:LISTCRUFT applies. Fails WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE. Of the sources per WP:RS; besides unsourced, one of those is a blogspot post; of the three offline sources, one is a personal opinion of one of the announcers, anything supporting this list is minimal. Another offline source is an announcement about a deal. A majority of those are WP:PRIMARY, forums and dead links besides the YouTube posts, not offering anything to assert notability. A small section in a main article about broadcasters will be more appropriate than a list about broadcasters. WP:ATD will be a merge to Soccer Bowl. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Football,  and Lists. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 18:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per failing WP:LISTN. I appreciate the WP:ATD from the nom, but nothing in the article suggests it can be moved to the main. This is a list format made with WP:OR and WP:LISTCRUFT. A brief search couldn't even yield the normal WP:ROUTINE press releases I'd get. Conyo14 (talk) 21:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge The sources in the article clearly show that the broadcasting of the Soccer Bowl passes WP:GNG in some sense. The arguments for deletion are mistaken - WP:NOTTVGUIDE clearly does not mean we can't have articles on historic media rights; LISTCRUFT is an I don't like it argument; I have absolutely no idea how NOTDATABASE is supposed to apply here, since there's nothing here remotely resembling a database. The sources have been mis-represented, too - there are numerous contemporary newspaper articles discussing the commentators and TV rights of individual Soccer Bowls such as   , all of which are already in the article. So this is a very clear keep to me. SportingFlyer  T · C  18:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge with North American Soccer League on television: As it stands, this subject does not meet the WP:LISTN as the broadcasters aren't discussed as a group anywhere so far as I can tell. Merge as a WP:ATD. Let&#39;srun (talk) 02:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That part of NLIST says "one accepted reason why." That's not the only reason a list could be notable - in this instance, it's notable because it's information best presented in list format. I've said keep or merge, but I'm not really pro merge apart from the fact there's absolutely no reason to lose this information, and this seems like a valid split. SportingFlyer  T · C  03:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note the last sentence, which says "Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists." Let&#39;srun (talk) 13:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Why don't you think the ample coverage demonstrates notability? Just because there's not one source that lists all of these? SportingFlyer  T · C  17:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * There doesn't appear to be any coverage as a set for this list, even as not the entirety of the list needs to be covered in any one RS. Let&#39;srun (talk) 18:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.