Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Socially or Historically Significant Persons Bearing the Surname McNulty


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The result was   merge to McNulty. J04n(talk page) 13:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

List of Socially or Historically Significant Persons Bearing the Surname McNulty

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Content fork of McNulty. Any famous McNulty's should go on the page related to the surname. Additionally Wikipedia isn't here for geneological purposes and articles aren't created solely to aid in research. Canterbury Tail  talk  23:23, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - I don't think a merger with McNulty will serve any purpose, considering this eccentric new article consists of questionable original research, a whole bunch of people who don't have the surname McNulty and a whole lot more who are unverified/unsourced. It seems to have been created by an author whose edits/unsourced additions were (correctly) reverted in the McNulty article. Sionk (talk) 00:26, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree with nom that this is at best redundant to McNulty. A wholesale merger is uncalled for, but there should at least be a quick scan before deleting to make sure all of the genuine McNulty articles are listed where they should be. postdlf (talk) 00:51, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge the legitimate entries to McNulty. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Selective merge Obviously a duplicate of McNulty. It should be straightforward to verify the existence of some of the other people, if not their notability: people without Wikipedia articles can be listed if they're likely to be notable. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Selective merge Merge into McNulty those who qualify to be on that page. Canuck 89 (converse with me)  03:20, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Selective merge or Retain with editing Merge List of all McNulty on this List and upon whom Wikipedia Articles exist into article for surname McNulty. There is only one argument made here for deletion under the Deletion Policy, which argument clearly does not apply to the entire or, even, a majority of the List. This argument is that the material is original research. To be original research under Wikipedia's deletion policy, the material must not be verifiable. The vast majority of the persons on the List are linked to already existing Wikipedia articles about them, which articles, themselves, contain verifiable in line citations. The alternative resolution suggested by most, even, the person, who originally recommended the List for deletion (which resolution is that the List be edited to contain only the McNultys, who are linked to Wikipedia articles about them, and incorporated more appropriately into the McNulty surname article) is a more reasonable solution to the problem that information for some persons on the List is not verified by in line citation than deletion of the List entirely. Note that McNaulty, McAnulty and McEnulty are variant historical spellings of McNulty and that the names may appear with the Gaelic Mac or anglicized Mc prefix dropped as Nulty and Naulty. Also, Mac an Ultaigh is the original name and Clonoulty is another anglicized variant along with McNolty, McNolte and McNull.

There is also sound reason for retaining the List, itself, but separately from the McNulty article, with only those persons who are not linked to a separate Wikipedia article on them redacted from the List (wether surnamed McNulty or not) and with an improved titling for the list. The list is relevant to the history of Ireland, at least European Medical History and, particularly to the MacDonlevy dynasty, who were the last line of rulers of the ancient Irish Kingdom of Ultonia Kings of Ulster and one of the ancient hereditary medical families of Ireland, who adopted the surname McNulty as an agnomen surname (See John O'Hart, Irish Pedigrees, 1871, cited in List article. See also entries in Annals of the Four Masters noting Donlevy using McNulty alias in Tyrconnell) and whose decendants, including the missionary doctor David Livingstone (See reference to Black also in List article) often operated under non obvious habitual surnames. (See references to Black and Paul McNulty in the List article) The List is also relevant to the MacDonlevy's continued profound influence in diaspora on Western society in as far flung regions as Argentina and their identification. (See Susan Wilkinson "Early Medical Education in Ireland", Irish Medical Studies in Latin America, Vol. 5, No. 3, Nov. 2008.) Also, I do not understand why historical researchers, including genealogical researchers, should not be anticipated to use the Wikipedia as a research tool.Albiet (talk) 17:35, 24 April 2013 (UTC)Albiet Albiet (talk) 20:14, 24 April 2013 (UTC)Albiet Albiet (talk) 20:31, 24 April 2013 (UTC) Albiet Albiet (talk) 17:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC) Albiet


 * Merge with McNulty. First, capitalizing every word in the title is kind of a red flag for a "bad" article. Second, everyone listed on McNulty is by default "socially or historically significant" because of WP:Notability, so there is no need for a separate article. Any historical or genealogical researchers would go to that page first, in any case. Ansh666 21:39, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Selective merge to McNulty per other selective merge recommendations above. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
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