Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of South Park cast members


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus for deletion. Please take further redirect and merge discussions to the talk page of the article. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

List of South Park cast members

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Totally random. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of information. Kariteh 21:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect/Merge to South Park article into proper sub-section with this list (if not done already)JForget 22:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.   -- Bduke 00:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP is not a directory Corpx 01:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect/merge, as it does concern a noteworthy show and many of the individual cast members have appeared in other cultural outlets, too. -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 01:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Isnt that what categories are for? Corpx 01:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, an article allows for the oppportunity for text to be added to better show linkage and for ready-made references, too. --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 02:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Over at CFD we spent months working on getting all the cast member categories listified. During discussions, we assured the people who maintained the categories that no information would be destroyed when the categories were removed and more detailed information could be added to the lists.  PLEASE! don't delete these lists.  If you do, people will start recreating the categories.  This information makes much more sense as a list than as a category.  I think it is impractical to say that cast lists should not have any home on Wikipedia.  People will continue to add this information faster than we can remove it.  Let it exist on lists.  That is the most appropriate form this information can take. -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman 06:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia simply isn't a directory. How can this list be justified? Kariteh 08:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge any notable members to South Park characters. JulesH 08:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - As the information exists elsewhere, I see no reason why this page should not be deleted. However, I very strongly oppose turning this back into a category.  See Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 25.  Using categories for cast members became a nightmare, as actors may perform in up to one hundred films and TV shows during their careers.  The resulting block of category links at the bottoms of the articles for some actors became very difficult to read and use for navigation.  Turning these lists back into categories would be highly disruptive.  Dr. Submillimeter 08:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Whatever happens, do not categorize. Dr. Submilliter and Samuel have already explained why. Circeus 09:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not categorize Cast lists should almost never be done as categories. See WP:OCAT for details. Dugwiki 15:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Work on it instead of deleting it. --Hemlock Martinis 18:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into South Park article. It's not that many names, and only the most notable should be listed anyway. Bulldog123 04:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, Salt and Merge into South Park. I see no point to a separate list. The main article should handle it. Noroton 01:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge and redirect to the show article or a list of show characters. Since all-capital-letter links to a particular essay and certain policies seem to be all the rage right now in WP:AfD, let me say that WP:JUSTAPOLICY is no more a valid argument than WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Simply stating that something is an "indiscriminate list" or a "directory" does not make it so. Nobody has presented any valid argument as to why a WP:LIST of WP:NOTABLE cast members in a WP:NOTABLE television show, which is WP:VERIFIABLE and WP:ATTributable to WP:ReliableSources, is WP:NPOV and not WP:ORiginal research, would be considered an "indiscriminate list" or a "directory". A cast list is a well-defined, finite, list, which is a perfectly valid criteria meeting the WP:LIST guidelines, as typically television actors are notable for the very reason of being in certain notable television shows. And cast categories are usually not appropriate for the very good reasons given in WP:OCAT. Furthermore, "delete and merge" is not a valid argument either, as deletion of the history of merged content violates the GFDL by destroying the attribution required by that license. DHowell 02:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * merge and redirect - article provides zero information, except that the person was a cast member on at least one show. In this case, the article isn't even exhaustive, as there is no George Clooney (who played a dog in one episode) or Robert Smith (who played himself). As it is nothing but a list, this list could well appear under the show itself. Also do not categorize, to respect the wishes of editors above. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 17:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.