Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Star Wars devices


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the nomination was delete. Mackensen (talk) 03:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

List of Star Wars devices

 * Delete. I believe that this "list" article merits deletion due to Wikipedia's policy that it is not an indiscriminate collection of information; specifically, that it is not for "lists or repositories of loosely associated topics."  The policy seems to indicate that if the list itself (not the entries comprising the list, but the actual list itself) is famous on its own standing, or contributed to the fame of the subject, it is acceptable to keep; I do not believe this list satisfies that corollary. &mdash; Mike (talk &bull; contribs) 17:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Unclear what a "device" would consist of, at any rate. Listcruft, triviacruft, fancruft. KillerChihuahua?!? 18:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep originally, I merged these into a list to get someone else to nominate it for deletion. However, we need to make sure that these do not get their own articles in the future. If someone can create an eneyclopedic article on star wars technology (or devices, in this case), then I would support that. Think of it this way; having one semi-guideline violation beats having 150 major guideline violations. The lesser of two evils is that this list remain as a "cruft dam" to provide potential for an encyclopedic shift and also to save on process, time, and lost ambition by new users with potential. &mdash; Deckill e r 18:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC) Weak delete; not as many items on this one as some of the others, so not as significant of a deal. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: Perhaps we could try to divert any link to the list to a relevant article on Wookieepedia? – Mipadi 01:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment That might work for some, but we may still need something to keep devicecruft sealed away on this encyclopedia. Fortunately, it isn't paper, so these lists serve as prime devices (no pun intended). So yeah, if this gets deleted, that could be a great option. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete all StarWars lists as per nominator. OMEN 21:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:CSD WP:NOT Problems with lists of definitions exist because policy isn't consistently followed in the first place. Voting against policy is the same as saying, "Hey, who cares about this encyclopedia?" Sure there are other lists with old strong factions behind them saying "we own these articles and you can't do a damned thing about it". Maybe that's true, but it doesn't change my vote for the integrity of the policies they violate. All they do is set a precident for other new editors like myself to become confused, misdirected, and shown that the policies simply don't matter. And if the policies don't matter, then you might as well just say consensus dosen't matter either. Ste4k 22:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment this does not compromise CSD A3, which is used in situations where an article has a lack of content or features just external links/see alsos. &mdash; Deckill e r 23:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep otherwise we'll have a bunch of stubs show up for each of these devices. --Pboyd04 23:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I actually created this page with the intention of trying to cut down on the Star Wars stub articles by keeping them in one handy spot, but I believe my intention, while honest, was wrong. I'm a huge fan of Star Wars, but I, too, like to try to cut down on the cruft. This article in particular is a rather random, arbitrary collection of other articles; I think it might be best to delete this article. The same material likely exists on Wookieepedia, and I think the Wikipedia and Star Wars communities could be best served by being redirected there for articles about things such as devices and items that are not relevant outside of Star Wars. – Mipadi 01:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If I was allowed to endorse you as the other major merger of this list, it could be speedy deleted. I guess not. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge into an article relating to Star Wars devices. Jedi6  -(need help?)  02:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Or Create a well-referenced, rounded, out-of-universe perspective, and encyclopedic article called Devices in Star Wars, which will assert the significance of devices to the various events, provide a brief synopsis (history) of the major ones, perhaps a section on their design for the movies, and so on. It beats a list of random devices, and it can still contain cruft to an extent. &mdash; Deckill e r 02:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, mainly to avoid the inevitable stubs that would show up otherwise. Or better yet, write Deckiller's proposed article. BryanG(talk) 02:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. These are an extremely important part of the Star Wars universe. If anything, split off the bigger articles, to create something more akin to Category:Star Trek devices. -LtNOWIS 06:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. These are an extremely important part of the Star Wars universe. However, they are not an extremely important part of the real universe.  Take it to wookieepedia. -- GWO
 * Delete. This is merely adding to the marketing hype of these films which wile novel when first filmed are little more than feeble rehashes at this stage acting as massive clothes horses for the associated merchandising. Let the film companies pay for their own advertising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.190.141.211 (talk • contribs)
 * Comment: By that logic, you say there should be no film information on Wikipedia? &mdash; Deckill e r 21:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't agree with Mike's canned nominations much as it might be appropriate to some of the articles subject to his AFD-spree, as it is not a list of links to other articles, but the articles themselves. --maru  (talk)  contribs 23:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. A lot of the content of this article could probably be moved into other articles. For example, the gravity well projector stuff could easily be put into the Interdictor cruiser article; stuff about hyperspace-related technologies could be merged into the Star Wars section of Hyperspace (science fiction). Tiny little pieces of information, such as datapad, could just be put inline where relevant (example: "…a datapad (the Star Wars equivalent of a portable computer)…". – Mipadi 16:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That is always a very good idea; I was talking to Jedi6 about doing that for the minor creatures. We can create a general encyclopedic article about "devices" and "creatures" in the future (turning the lists into an article), and bring details into the context. More on this idea on the WikiProject page in the near future. &mdash; Deckill e r 17:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.