Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Subiaco footballers who have also played in the VFL/AFL


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The result was no consensus. Gnangarra's argument seven days ago remains unrefuted. Daniel (talk) 10:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

List of Subiaco footballers who have also played in the VFL/AFL

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While this is an interesting list, it appears to entirely be original research. No citations are cited. I also can't find anything like this list in a reliable secondary source online. Print versions of this don't seem to be likely either. Since this violates WP:NOR and WP:NLIST, I propose it be deleted. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 04:13, 15 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:34, 23 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:00, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete Trivia Nick-D (talk) 07:32, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * neutral yet to be convinced I did find https://www.wafl.com.au/honour/players-drafted which would provide a cite for many of the names this includes both AFL & AFLW players. A less reliable source https://ozfooty.net/lions/3477-every-subiaco-produced-vfl-afl-player though it looks relatively comprehensive. There are regular media sources on a year by year basis, and each of players are notable and where they came from is a defining characteristic for both the player and club. There is no single reliable list for everyone thats a problem. The will be book sources about the history of Subiaco Football Club that will again carry segments of the list depending on the publication time. Its a non-static list with additions every year. I'd put one refinement in that should only be for players who started their AFL/VFL career via Subiaco, not players who came to subi after playing in AFL/VFL. Finding sources will really depend on how you frame the search give the information is also in WAFL records and media reports. Gnangarra 08:42, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep They list about 70 people who have done that.That does seem like a lot of people. Wp9097 (talk) 00:26, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:LISTN as no reliable secondary sources have been uncovered that describe this grouping. Devonian Wombat (talk) 01:10, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:38, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * keep split into years as multiple reliable sourcing for the article is available on a year by year basis like this. According to notability guidelines everyone that list is notable for being drafted to the highest level professional league in Australia. Clubs get paid a fee when the player is drafted, when play their first game, at various milestone games(10,50,100) so its a significant factor for WAFL clubs and the league. Gnangarra 03:49, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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