Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Amazing Race statistics and trivia


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The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 11:08, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

List of The Amazing Race statistics and trivia

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This is clearly a cluttered useless trivia/fact guide for the show. A clear violation of Avoid trivia sections in articles. Not because it has trivia in the article name: it's due to this just being random trivia and statistics about the show that aren't very ecyclopedic. A merge into the correct seasons wouldn't help much: as those are cluttered with mass stats and trivia already! RobJ1981 05:35, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * We're trying to fix this. It's too easy for people to find some trivial bit to add.  However, the article above in question is a cumulation of details for the entire series and thus cannot be distilled into separate season pages; we've already split the main series page twice and moved season-wide trivia off of there, so while the elements on this page could be moved off, it would further just extend the pages.  A similar article exists for Survivor, which seems to work fine. --Masem 05:43, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment By definition, trivia should not be in articles, much less have their own articles. ShadowHalo 07:44, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I looked closer at List of Survivor statistics and trivia which obviously this article is based on (there's a same records/firsts type section), and I see very little there, and very little here that, in an encyclopedic context it worthwhile to keep even though they describe the series at large and not specific seasons. Am I seeing this right? Is there anything in this specific page that (ignoring that is on a "trivia" page) is encyclopedic that we should consider saving and moving to an appropriate series/season page?  I've already trimmed a lot of such 'firsts/records' trivia from TAR11's page, and working with other editors to move other bits around, so I'm trying to make sure I've got a good line between notability and trivia. --Masem 12:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete as unencyclopedic, indiscriminate and trivial information. Dr bab 14:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. The Survivor trivia article should probably be in AFD as well, it looks almost exactly like this one. Moving trivia to articles isn't helping things. The problem should be condensed: then moved if needed. Like any reality show: there is alot that goes on, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere on what is encyclopedic and not encyclopedic. Wikipedia certainly shouldn't be a complete guide to every detail on the shows. RobJ1981 22:25, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a list of statistics. The title alone seems to violate this guideline. the_undertow talk  04:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.  -- Pax:Vobiscum 17:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete-The title itself is a vio of WP:NOT. We need notable things, not trival ones like "Bob was the second person to complete a Roadblock first, while starting it last". -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@(Let's go Yankees!) 00:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per the above. Most articles with 'trivia' in the name end up being non-notable im afraid.  &mdash;A • D  Torque 22:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete won't find that in an encyclopedia Bulldog123 11:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


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