Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Amazing Spider-Man comics (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:48, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

List of The Amazing Spider-Man comics
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Delete This amounts to an index of the issues of a single comic book title across multiple volumes. While the title character, the publication, and some of the story arcs are notable in their own right, that does not extend to an index of 600+ issues. J Greb (talk) 00:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Keep: All points listed under index does not show article is in violation. This falls in line with other wiki pages showing list of episodes for television programming when the list becomes extremely unwieldy to be listed on the main page. Comic listing is neat and can be cited. The page may need revision, but deletion does not appear to be the best or correct option.MichaelJPierce (talk) 19:09, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Care to cite an episode list for a soap opera? Since that's the closest you are going to get to finding a show with anything near this many entries. - J Greb (talk) 19:32, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Listing where each one of his villains first appeared, those villains all notable enough to have their own article, is notable. Every Spider-Man comic or story arc gets news coverage these days.   D r e a m Focus  01:42, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: Both sides have made good points, so for right now I have to agree with both sides and not really "vote" for either side. However, I would point out that the summaries of more recent issues have gotten excessively long and need to be shortened to the length of the earlier issues to be in line with list articles about television show episodes. Spidey  104  06:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * A few things...
 * @Dream Focus:
 * Listing foes first appearances can and sgould be handle on List of Spider-Man enemies. A partial list, as not all those characters originated in The Amazing Spider-Man, in and of itself is not notable and is INDISCRIMINATE|indiscriminate.
 * Current coverage of the title does not imply notability to older issues. Coverage of other titles is irrelevant.
 * Listing issues involved in story arcs, self contained or cross over, is appropriate in the articles on those notable stories. That notability does not extend to all issues. And presenting sections of crossover is as indiscriminate as the partial villain's first appearances list.
 * @Spidey104: There is a definate skew towards the recent and to plot dumping. If the premise is held that this type of article mirrors episode lists, and based on the criteria used for those articles this lacks secondary sources establishing notability for the list and any real world context, then i cap on the summary is needed. I'd say a good cap would be ~250 characters or 150-200 words.
 * - J Greb (talk) 16:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - While it's clear that the recent sections of the article need to be edited to remove plot dumping (and I'd be for something closer to a 20-30 word cap on plots), this article is clearly in the vein of  episode lists rather than directories.  I personally don't see a problem with a list of 600+ issues listed as long as it's succinct, accurate and complete; it's not like every issue is given it's own separate page (unlike episodes of, say, Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Lost). NYArtsnWords (talk) 03:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Or all 486 episodes of The Simpsons having their own articles. Spidey  104  12:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.