Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Apprentice candidates (British series 1)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:38, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

List of The Apprentice candidates (British series 1)

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For some time I have not had any issues with these pages, but I recently put forward my opinion on Articles for deletion/List of births, marriages and deaths in Emmerdale, and during that time took a look at two different Wikipedia Policies - WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:FANCRUFT, and from this I have begun to wonder if this page is doing the exact same thing - being tailored to be only of interest to fans of The Apprentice (UK), and thus not for those of general interest. I nominate this page for AfD but with three suggestions to consider:


 * KEEP - The page should be retained because there is a consensus amongst editors that my concern of it being only interesting to fans is unfounded.
 * DELETE & MERGE - The page should be deleted as they're purely of interest to fans, but information for candidates who already have articles should be merged in to their respective article.
 * DELETE WITHOUT MERGE - The page should be deleted, as none of the information is of general interest and should be preserved.

Alongside this page, I also nominate the following pages for the same reason, so the above suggestions should be counted for all:


 * GUtt01 (talk) 21:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete and merge. Fancruft in this state, but I think a "List of The Apprentice candidates" or something similar is a reasonable concept for a list article. Not sure why there needs to be one for each individual season. If one candidate is themselves notable (e.g. Susie Ma, Katie Hopkins, Leah Totton etc) then we can by all means have an article on them as individuals. — 🦊 22:21, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see we already have such a list article. Let's just use that. — 🦊 22:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: I was tempted to nominate List of The Apprentice (British TV series) candidates as well, but I changed my mind on the belief that the article could be cleaned up or remade to something more appropriate. GUtt01 (talk) 22:41, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, use existing list article - Agree with Fox, per WP:FANCRUFT no need for individual articles per season with such detail. Existing list article serves purpose enough, anything more would be unsuitable. eeveeman (talk) 22:29, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and Merge - Per and . A single list is enough, if that. Foxnpichu (talk) 22:57, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:01, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:01, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete without merge and use the existing article - the additional details on each person is their personal bio unrelated to the show. If these people are notable, they have an article which covers it and this is a WP:CONTENTFORK, if they don't have an article, they aren't notable and this info is just not needed. Anything specific to the show can be added, but should be limited to 1-2 sentences, similar to how non-reality TV shows or films summarize a character. There is definitely no need for any "play-by-play" re-cap of what he did on the show. These articles are a plague which I've noticed for a while now, and I'm glad someone else brought it up.--Gonnym (talk) 10:59, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: If I hadn't come across the AfD I mentioned in my reasoning above, I reckon this AfD wouldn't have been created unless someone had seen the two different policies. Particularly the one connected to "What Wikipedia is Not". GUtt01 (talk) 11:21, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Most TV project (not the reality) editors know that and also know about these set of articles, we just stay away from them as it's almost impossible to get "consensus" to fix/merge/delete their articles. --Gonnym (talk) 17:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, with or without merge - Gonnym is correct on the notability issue. The articles are also magnets for trash-tier and actually-deprecated gossip-level "sourcing" that is completely unsuitable for BLP content on Wikipedia, which all of these articles are. Strip out the gossip-mag content and there's really very little left - David Gerard (talk) 10:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete the articles' history, which may be plagued with tabloids and non-indep press releases, but keep the redirects so they go to season articles. Any salvageable where-are-they-now info covered by sites of repute (Independent, Telegraph, Guardian, Times) can be merged to the season articles. ミラP 03:21, 27 December 2019 (UTC)


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