Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Familiar of Zero characters (second nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 11:45, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

List of The Familiar of Zero characters
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not sure how that last afd went but there is no significant coverage from reliable sources. The only sources currently on the page and what I could find on a cursory search were mostly niche website that wouldn't pass the threshold of WP:RS and the fictinal works themselves. See similar deletion here: Articles for deletion/List of F-Zero characters Prisencolin (talk) 06:53, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:20, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:20, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:20, 13 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete The last AfD had no policy based arguments, the character list appears to be WP:ALLPLOT. Fails WP:LISTN.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:10, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep (in spite of article quality) as a valid content fork. Has anyone tried searching the Japanese name "ゼロの使い魔" and those of the characters? ミラP 14:33, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I did google it WP:BEFORE, but I'm still not convinced any of those sources are valid. Besides, if there are reliable sources, why aren't they on the article in the first place?--Prisencolin (talk) 05:17, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * That's most articles. Hyperbolick (talk) 17:57, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - These lists tend to be kept as they cover notable series that may be WP:SPLIT due to WP:SIZE. A better option would be to trim down the character details and include them in the main article (The Familiar of Zero). Deletion isn't cleanup, and pointing to other deletions falls under WP:WAX. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:46, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Its a valid split/spinoff article. Notable series often have character lists.   D r e a m Focus  18:58, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep appropriate split of List of characters from the light novel and anime series. Deletion is not cleanup. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:32, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. A spinoff is not a valid spinoff if the resulting article violates inclusion policies or guidelines, as here: It fails WP:NOTPLOT (is only plot summary) and WP:LISTN (no indication of coverage of the topic as such in reliable sources).  Sandstein   12:11, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I added some reception (real-life context) so it's technically not only plot summary and while coverage of the topic as such in reliable sources is cited by WP:LISTN as [o]ne accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable, there is actually no specific indication there that this is the only accepted reason absent Wikipedia articles for any of the list items, and in fact it also says lists that fulfill recognized informational [...] purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability. Closing admin/user, if you're reading this, both delete votes have been addressed by the real-life context being added to the article. ミラP 19:19, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buidhe 22:49, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: there are lists of characters for many series. The main article will be way too long if merged. –  333-blue  at 11:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: The characters have received coverage as shown in the real-life context added by Miraclepine. Lagoona Blue (talk) 13:40, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.