Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Simpsons TV ads

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The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash 06:58, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

List of The Simpsons TV ads and identical List of The Simpsons television advertisements
Utter Springfieldcruft (and I say this as a huge Simpsons fan). tregoweth 05:46, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, why shouldn't users be able to look up what advertisements have used Simpsons characters? Kappa 08:17, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Why the hell would they be looking that up in a general-knowledge encyclopedia? --Calton | Talk 14:12, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's the only one they have access to. Kappa 19:12, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Then they must not have access to Wikipedia or Google. I didn't even bother checking Google since there's probably an obscene number of Simpsons sites there, and here in the main The Simpsons article, there's 43 external links, including a new wiki, which this article should be transwikied to. Karmafist 01:12, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Why? Because this is an encyclopedia, not a Simpsons fan directory. / Peter Isotalo 10:28, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per tregoweth, with the same sentiments. Sandstein 11:09, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Simpson-cruft. --Calton | Talk 14:12, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, even if we'd want to put everything in WP this is out. feydey 15:07, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Perfectly legitimate list. The user who made this list was originally making individual articles on each ad, so I prompted them to do a list instead, which I find informative. -- BD2412 talk 15:59, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. If we allow Harry Potter and Pokemon to clutter WP, we (sadly) will have to allow the Simpsons as well. --DrTorstenHenning 16:46, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If you don't want to keep this, why are you voting for a keep? It's hardly logical to make the cruftiness of others persuade you to vote differently. The quite extreme inclusionist sentiment that seems to be prevelent at VfD is anything but official policy and shouldn't force everyone else to vote for things they don't actually want to keep. From my experience inclusionists here tend to either rules lawyer policy statements beyond recognition or ignore them altogether. The argumentation seems very flexible as long as the end result is a vote to keep. / Peter Isotalo 15:16, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. We really should have much more in Category:Television commercials seeing what a major part of modern culture they are. - SimonP 16:54, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. We already have this information in much greater detail at List of The Simpsons episodes. It doesn't really belong there, though. Flowerparty   talk  17:21, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Wow - and that article is over 80K, as well - good reason to break out a section!!! -- BD2412 talk 17:29, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, I moved that section over to this article and dropped a link to it on the episode list article. -- BD2412 talk 17:43, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * So as long as someone makes really big articles, it should be kept, no matter how useless or relativly obscure it can be? The Simpsons are very notable, but Simpsons TV ads are not. And I'm saying this as a quite devoted (though early season-orthodox) Simpson fan myself. / Peter Isotalo 15:16, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone is saying that "as long as someone makes really big articles, it should be kept, no matter how useless or relativly obscure..." I could write quite a lengthy missive on the lint that collects between my toes when I wear argyle socks, and even put in tables and pictures and so forth - but my toe lint is not regularly broadcast on TV, nor is it familiar to millions of people. Some TV commercial campaigns are notable, and those featuring the cast of The Simpsons tend to fall into that category. -- BD2412 talk 15:53, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll concede that they might be individually notable (a lot of things are notable), but they are not encyclopedic by any reasonable or useful definition of the term. It's still fancruft and the only ones that will come looking for it here are Simpsons-nuts; a very good reason to transwiki to a dedicated Simpsons-wiki. / Peter Isotalo 16:14, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not a Simpsons nut, and I find it useful to have here. In any event, it is surely better to have this list than to have individual articles on each ad (which another editor had begun to do), and it takes no more of Wikipedia's space to have this article than to have the same information included in the already overly large list of episodes (where it was previously). As my father would say, it can't hurt and it might help. -- BD2412 talk 18:29, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, same reasoning as BD2412 --Presnell 19:19, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, perfectly fine. Christopher Parham (talk) 19:42, 2005 August 14 (UTC)
 * Keep Simpson television appearances are notable, we have articles for each episode, and this is better than articles for each ad. CanadianCaesar 20:11, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, Mmmm TV adsGateman1997 22:30, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Nice work BDA! Hamster Sandwich 01:10, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but all I did was cut-and-paste the table from the List of The Simpsons episodes article, which was predominantly done by Kaizersoze. -- BD2412 talk 01:28, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well in that case... Nice Work to both of you! And thanks! Hamster Sandwich 01:54, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep owing to the notability of The Simpsons and as a reasonable breakout topic. 23skidoo 02:24, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable. &mdash; BRIAN 0918 &bull; 2005-08-15 02:47
 * Keep. Interesting trivia. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:48, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but Move to List of The Simpsons television advertisements, as per naming criteria. Proto t c 10:19, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and move as per User:Proto. This is an appropriate breakout from the main article. &mdash;Theo (Talk) 12:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
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