Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Thessalonians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Mkativerata (talk) 21:23, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

List of Thessalonians
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No ctiteria of notability is present. "Don't leave readers confused over the list's inclusion criteria or have editors guessing what may be added to the list." (WP:LIST) The list seems to be one's original research. No relible sources are present A1 (talk) 11:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:26, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 00:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC) \
 * Keep. "Notability is defined by having an article for all of Wikipedia. See WP:NN. Complaint above seems to say that lede should be changed to reflect notability requirements, which are the same throughout the encyclopedia. I do not agree with this, nor think that an Afd is the proper way to get the lede changed, in any event. Student7 (talk) 20:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. We are stuck with lists of notables because editors, particularly new editors want them. Removing them all tomorrow won't help. This is the best way to handle this material IMO. Student7 (talk) 20:28, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete properly handled as a category, not a list. ScienceApologist (talk) 14:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Since it's apparently considered important enough to be a category (Category:People from Thessaloniki), then it's important enough to be its own list. This is somewhat better than the category, in that it explains what the person is known for, something that categories aren't equipped to do.  The criteria are easily defined-- they (a) are notable enough that they have their own article on Wikipedia and (b) they were born in Thessaloniki, Greece-- sourcing would be appreciated, of course.  Per WP:CLN, however, we don't have to choose whether this should be a category or a list.  In fact, the only useful thing from the category is that the 108 pages include something called "List of Thessalonians".  Mandsford 15:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per mandsford. i see no reason why this subject must only be a category. the two forms complement each other. the list needs some tweaking, and i guess its considered appropriate to show the references in stand alone lists, but as long as the names show references in the articles about them, they can eventually be added here.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.