Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Trinidadian English terms


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was DELETE. WP:NOT calls this one out in black and white, and the main defense seems to be that other dictionaries won't take these words (try Wiktionary) or that other, similar lists have been kept in other AFD discussions (however, AFD decisions aren't binding). Given blatant policy violation and no suggested solution to this policy violation, this list needs to be deleted. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

If you are dissatisfied with my decision to evaluate the policy arguments instead of counting heads, I suggest taking this to Deletion Review. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 19:45, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

The result of the debate was delete. If this close is disputed, and it seems to be, the proper venue is deletion review. It is unacceptable for an admin involved in the debate to revert the close and undelete the article. I'm upholding Man in Black's close without passing comment on the rightness of it, and re-deleting. See you all at Deletion Review. Regards, Mackensen (talk) 22:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

List of Trinidadian English terms
del. wikipedia is not a dictionary. The encyclopedic article is Trinidadian Creole English. I say, merge what is possible there (together with a couple examples) and delete the dictionar. `'mikka (t) 22:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per the original deletion debate - there are articles on London slang, Helsinki slang, List of Irish slang, Canadian words, Boston slang, etc. Guettarda 00:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing to these article. London slang is what it is supposed to be an encyclopedia article about slang. List of Irish slang will be placed for deletion: among the main policies is "wikipedia is not a dictionary" (and especially not a dictionary of slang), whatever good intentions are. The proper place for such things is wiktionary `'mikka (t) 00:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, in that case, don't forget to AFD List of British words not widely used in the United States, List_of_words_having_different_meanings_in_British_and_American_English, List of American words not widely used in the United Kingdom, List of ethnic slurs, List of sexual slurs, and everything else in Category:Lists_of_phrases, Category:Lists of words, etc. Guettarda 13:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow! It looks like here we have a major policy issue to be discussed in a proper place: where to draw a line between encyclopedic lists of words and, say, List of English words starting from letter A or List of English words used to refer to a male. What would be the proper place to talk about this? `'mikka (t) 22:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * My reading of how "Wikipedia is not a dictionary" is applied is that we don't (shouldn't) have articles about single words. The policy article doesn't appear to address word lists, so based on how the policy is applied at this point in time, I don't think these articles actually do violate policy, hence my Keep vote.  Guettarda 22:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, the immediately applicable policy is in What Wikipedia is not: Lists of such definitions. `'mikka (t) 00:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. As pointed out, there are several such articles on varieties of regional English. The reason is simple: articles on regional English can quickly grow to quite a size, and having a list of slang and dialect words within these articles makes them longer and also unbalanced. For that reason it seems quite reasonable to have such lists as separate articles. Grutness...wha?  06:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I am not against artyicles about regional language varieties. In this case Trinidadian Creole English is the valid article on the topic. But the dictionary of trinidadian creole does not belong to wikipedia, which is not a dictionary. `'mikka (t) 22:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep the article. It is informative and entertaning and surprisingly acurate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.230.241.5 (talk • contribs).
 * Strong delete - Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The policy even specifies 'lists of definitions'.  Proto ::  type  10:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:WINAD and Mikkalai's strong arguments. This is a list of definitions, not allowed.  Mango juice talk 17:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. For a long time I was looking at List of sexual slurs, but didn't exactly know how to argue for its deletion. Thank you for the hint. Doing it now. Mukadderat 18:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Per above. Cheesehead 1980 13:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Per above SqueakBox 14:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Guettarda Crazynast 14:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 *  AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.  Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mango juice talk 15:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep. Dictionaries are anglo-centric repositories of 'traditional', 'proper' or 'common' words. The list of Trinidadian English terms is NOT 'merely a collection of definitions suitable for a dictionary. Indeed, this is a very and euro-centric view. Trinidadian slang, is just as much a part of its culture, as Carnival or Politics is. Sociologically, and anthropologically this list of Trinidad English terms provides a valuable insight into Trinidad culture, history, priorities, eccentricities, and biases. If Wikipedia is not a dictionary, then this List of Trinidad English terms is not a mere collection of definitions.User:Emirmohammed 15:03, 28July 2006 (UTC)
 * Transwiki Move each definition to its own page in wikitionary. --Sbluen 17:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per my comments on the List of British words not widely used in the United States AfD. Carlossuarez46 18:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.