Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of U.S. and Canadian cities by last major professional sports championship won


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The result was   delete. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

List of U.S. and Canadian cities by last major professional sports championship won

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Interesting list (last time a sports team from each major US/Canadian city won a championship), but IMHO WP:NOTDIR may apply in this case. I can't find a firm WP rule though. Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't really fit under WP:NOTDIR. I think there is some interest out there as to what cities have lacked a major sports championship the longest, which is why I created the list. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:40, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Maybe it does not belong in WP, but I do not know of a rule against this sort of article, and there re many lists which are far less likely to be referred to (e.g. the next 10,000 in line to the British throne). Collect (talk) 15:57, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as original synthesis, not very well done and not very useful. I get the premise-- years refers to how many years it's been since the city had a championship in what the author postulates as the "Big Six" of sports leagues-- MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MSL and (since the NFL doesn't have Canadian teams, the CFL). The original synthesis has other problems too-- San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose are all part of the "San Francisco Bay area" (San Jose won the soccer championship in '03), as are Washington/Baltimore (D.C. United soccer champs in '04), while Green Bay, Wisconsin is its own metropolis. I guess that under those rules, it's mostly accurate, although the Cleveland Browns won several NFL championships after the Indians won the World Series in 1948. Mandsford (talk) 02:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The claim of "original synthesis" would apply to almost all lists, n'est-ce pas? As for utility, is the list of potential heirs to the British throne of much utility?  Heck, how many lists are of great utility? Collect (talk) 13:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The Ten Commandments and the Bill of Rights were pretty good. Mandsford (talk) 16:02, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep as per collect. travb (talk) 10:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete clear original synthesis and trivial. While I think the list is interesting, it just doesn't fall under our guidelines, and I'm saying this as a person who deals with primarily with sports articles. There are many cities with at least one professional team. Keep voters is mainly WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, look at the article and let people who know the subject well, deal with these AFDs. Secret account 15:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Can't see how this is any less notable than "Canadian provinces without major sports teams". Not that that is a valid excuse on Wikipedia, but it should be! -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:21, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 21:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete OR, synthesis (deciding what is and isn't a major sports league, why not onclude NLL or MLL for example? Lacrosse isn't considered a major sport?).
 * The above comment is mine, I forgot to sign.  TJ   Spyke   02:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete clearly original synthesis per above— Chris!  c t 04:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Who made up the term "big six"? If it was the author, then delete. Brownsnout spookfish (talk) 18:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Big six is listed here, List of U.S. and Canadian cities by number of major professional sports franchises. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:43, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Then I guess it isn't orginal synthesis any more than other Wikipedia-generated lists. Not many of them are graven on stone tablets like the Ten Commandments. Brownsnout spookfish (talk) 22:44, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.