Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of U.S. and Canadian cities by professional sports teams championships


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The result was   delete.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

List of U.S. and Canadian cities by professional sports teams championships

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This article is original research because it is an arbitrary synthesis of data. It awards past championships to a team's current city, eg, the NBA championships of the Minneapolis Lakers are credited to Los Angeles. To my knowledge, none of these leagues have an official stat of championships by city, so there is no standard beyond Wikipedia to decide how these should be listed.  Randall Bart    Talk   21:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not sure I'd worry too much about original research but it doesn't really satisfy WP:LIST - the criteria involved are rather arbitrary.  Shereth 23:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Perhaps not original research; but the nom is correct that this is a fundamentally flawed list of cities by number of championships, since it apportions championships by teams rather than by cities (Atlanta, for example, has no NBA championships; the Hawks were in St. Louis when they were champions). I also agree with Shereth (I think) that this list is based on a loose association of topics (though I don't think that is covered in WP:LIST). Deor (talk) 01:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above... maybe not strictly OR, but definitely I think falls under the not-so-good side of synthesis. umrguy  42  04:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as biased and arbitrary, and factual false. Championships are not won/held by cities when the teams didn't play in that geographic region when it was won in the first place. Defunct teams have won championshps, despite the fact they don't exist anymore. 74.15.104.182 (talk) 06:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete More fun to write than it was to read; no context at all, full of strange rules that a championship relocates to a current city (that Sacramento NBA championship was won by the Rochester Royals); now that it's done, what does it prove? Mandsford (talk) 23:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've been bugged by this page since I first read it.  I had visions of fixing it, but I realized I would have to make decisions that Wikipedia editors should not make (eg, East Rutherford NJ is New York City, so are San Francisco and Oakland a single city?).  The synthesis is not really advancing a point, but it is synthesis.  For something to appear in Wikipedia, a little bit of synthesis is okay, but it must be possible for some other source to produce the same data.  That's not true of this page, so as I see it, this fits within the outer margins of OR.   Randall Bart    Talk   23:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - out of nothing else, just for being terribly wrong. matt91486 (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Everything about this list is arbitrary. Which leagues are included, how titles are assigned to cities, how regions are assigned to cities... the concept as presented is fatally flawed and I don't think it is something that can be saved. Rejectwater (talk) 15:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


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