Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of U.S. counties named after U.S. Presidents


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:11, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

List of U.S. counties named after U.S. Presidents

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Article is unsourced speculative information and doesn't meet notability. Shabidoo | Talk 17:44, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Conditional Keep. It's not speculative if it can be cited, and the source of names of geographic locations is certainly notable. If we have no citations for the source of a county's name, it should be removed, but the ones we do know should be kept. 331dot (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Regarding this and the other 7 related pages nominated at the same time with the same rationale by : The requirement for a stand-alone article to be notable is, more or less, that the grouping it covers is notable. In other words, it's about whether there exist reliable sources, regardless of what's currently cited, covering counties (plural) named after US Presidents. Of those nominated (one of which I had personally PRODded in the past, and none of which are easy keeps), this seems to be the most likely for notability. Given that several sources for various states popped up when I did a quick search, I have to ask the nominator if he/she followed WP:BEFORE, looking for sources before making a claim about notability. It's also a little concerning that these nominations appear to have immediately followed the unfavorable closure of Articles for deletion/List of unique U.S. county names. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 19:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * This was my first time nominating articles for deletion so thanks for the heads up on alerting the creator of the pages. You're right that this one is more likely to be saved but is the fact that a county might be named after a president notable enough to exist in a stand alone article, especially one where few can be verified? I already suggested in the discussion of the closed deletion proposal that the other articles should be deleted or merged into the index of counties. No one contributed to the conversation unfortunately. Shabidoo | Talk 21:17, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Notability is only defined in terms of what sources exist and it's the responsibility of the nominator to search for those sources before nominating. As I mentioned, I was able to find a few such sources about the list subject, and a whole lot (within a few seconds) verifying specifics. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 21:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep County names were generally chosen by state legislatures to honor something or someone. Guesswork and speculation are not required when reliable sources exist. In addition to dusty legislative archives not available online, there are books abouot county names, such as this one, which says that 204 counties are named for 24 presidents. Edison (talk) 22:11, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep As a Wikipedian that often uses Wikipedia's information on counties, I would keep all of the lists that you have flagged for deletion, as long as sources are added.Alexschmidt711 (talk) 14:15, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep toponymy is encyclopedic; is the nom. suggesting that nothing in this article can be sourced? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.