Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of U.S. presidential relatives


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The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:30, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

List of U.S. presidential relatives

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This is nothing but listcruft. It was previously kept mainly because "it's interesting", which really isn't a good reason to maintain articles per WP:INTERESTING. Except for perhaps being a First Lady or maybe a child who also became President, being related to a President isn't exactly on its own a noteworthy trait to begin with, and Wikipedia isn't supposed to have excessive listings per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. For the First Ladies, there is already List of First Ladies of the United States. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:27, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Gabe Iglesia (talk) 01:58, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Gabe Iglesia (talk) 01:58, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete Jesus. 614 mentions of "distant cousin". This may actually be the most indiscriminate list ever. It could in theory include literally every biography on the entire encyclopedia. I mean...honestly, J. P. Morgan as distant cousin by marriage of Obama? That JP Morgan? ... The one who died in 1913? Timothy Joseph Wood  18:15, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Wait...honestly...I don't...I can't... Robert E. Lee as a distant cousin to Obama? Is this a joke? Timothy Joseph Wood  18:20, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, they are distantly related, although it might not be notable to state. https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-chart.php?name=4640+robert+e+lee&kin=10012+barack+obama. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:300:C930:5C11:9246:32CB:10D7 (talk) 14:18, 31 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as absurd, unlimited list. We are, after all, ultimately all "distant cousins" of one another.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:29, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - unverifiable and indiscriminate; see WP:IINFO Spiderone  17:29, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete also see this, so we should add the Fuhrer to the list of relatives, hey? -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:57, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. If a president is sourceable as a direct descendant of someone else notable, then that's a noteworthy fact, as it is if notable people are closely related to each other. Being distant cousins who never actually had any personal contact with each other, however, is just indiscriminate WP:TRIVIA with no encyclopedic value, because as noted above if genealogy records existed far enough back in history we would all eventually be related to each other. Bearcat (talk) 18:15, 3 January 2017 (UTC)


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