Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of US Reality Stars with Foreign Descents


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The result was delete. Sean William @ 04:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

List of US Reality Stars with Foreign Descents

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Lots of reasons. First of all, it's kind of a pointless list on its face. It's not useful. Secondly, it has almost completely no criteria for inclusion. People born in foreign countries are mixed in with Americans with ancestors from foreign countries. Well. That's a bit random since most Americans have ancestors from foreign countries. So essentially, this is a list of reality show contestants. And that definitely is useless since most of these folks fail notability. Please kill it. :) WoohookittyWoohoo! 12:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, agree with Woohookitty. It is also painfully unreferenced, and this kind of thing is the sort of thing that needs to be referenced. J Milburn 14:01, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Well, many of the people on the list could be arguably notable by virtue of being on a TV-series and gaining celebrity status. But "foreign descent" has absolutely zero impact on their role as reality TV stars, and as the nom says, almost all Americans are of foreign descent from only a few hundred years back. Alternatively, rename article to List of US reality stars who are not of Native American origin. Sjakkalle (Check!)  14:02, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. List isn't supported by being used by anyone in the greater culture or literature. --Alabamaboy 14:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Sjakkalle. This is a really bad idea for an article. --Metropolitan90 17:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. A list of non-notable people is not notable. This is also trivia. -- Mikeblas 19:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Everyone in the US is of foreign descent, even the natives had to come across the Bering strait at some point. ~ Infrangible 19:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Actually, they are known to have been in North America before the British are known to have been in Britain, the Irish in Ireland, and the Scandinavians in Scandinavia. In reality we're all immigrants, but the Native Americans have more claim to America than the Irish, English, Welsh, and Scots have to the British Isles. -- Charlene 20:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is really List of US Reality Stars Whose Ancestors Weren't From the British Isles. It implies that descendants of the English, Scots, Irish, and Welsh are "real Americans" and everyone else isn't. -- Charlene 20:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing WP:NOT  semper fictilis 22:02, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, a few of the people in the list are notable, but the reason isn't because of their descent. An article about the notable person him/herslef is fine, but a list devoted to his/her heritage is not.  *Cremepuff 222*  01:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 01:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Maxamegalon2000 05:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as not encyclopedic, race and ethnicity is rarely the characteristic about someone that makes them notable (perhaps the last of the XYZ people would fit that bill, but reality show stars? c'mon). Carlossuarez46 20:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as ALL Americans are of foreign descent. --RabidMonkeysEatGrass 20:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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