Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of US politicians with Confederate ancestry


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The result was   delete.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 01:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

List of US politicians with Confederate ancestry

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Poorly defined list with potentially massive scope. "US politicians" embraces everyone from the President to an unsuccessful candidate to local office. Under these parameters, this list could include most white, southern politicians from the South who have ancestors from the South. My guess is most politicians don't play up their family's connection to the Confederate Army, and this would require some excellent sourcing for whatever politicians added to the list. Currently there are zero sources. AniMate  07:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. Zero sources, zero value. Possible WP:ATTACK: apparently, the Democratic Party is the only party that accepts members with Confederate ancestors. — Rankiri (talk) 13:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep(with necessary expansion and qualification for membership on list). Creating such a list and only including Democrats makes it look like an attack article. Perhaps the article creator just had not gotten around to including John McCain and countless other prominent Republicans]. A list such as this should be sourced to reliable sources such as this one for Georgia Republican Representative Dan Ponder, Republican U.S. Representative Joe Wilson member of Sons of Confederate Veterans [or SenatorStrom Thurmond, a Democrat/Dixiecrat/Republican, rather than user-created genealogy sites such as Ancestry.com. The list should have some lower cutoff, so it includes Presidents, Senators, Representatives, Governors, and members of state legislatures, but not city council members, mayors of small towns, or unsuccessful candidates. Important politicians' biographies may tell who they had as ancestors during the Civil War. We have a great many lists including U.S. politicians organized by their religion or where their distant ancestors immigrated from. Confederate ancestry (especially publicly taking pride in it) seems as relevant as their great grandfather coming from Ireland or having been a Mormon.  Edison (talk) 17:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that your criteria is what is wrong with this list. If we have to limit it in a way that isn't obvious from the title, it isn't a good list.  AniMate   08:11, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Worthless list. Impossible to limit or define. 150 years after the Civil War, with all the moving around that Americans do, probably a high proportion of the entire American population has a Confederate somewhere in their family tree. I'd guess more than half of us do, whether we know it or not. --MelanieN (talk) 07:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. As noted, the article cites no sources, and I just deleted one of the five names (Woodrow Wilson) because sources contradicted the information. --MelanieN (talk) 14:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
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