Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of VFL/AFL players who have played with three or more clubs


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:58, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

List of VFL/AFL players who have played with three or more clubs

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Non-notable list – falling under WP:LISTCRUFT No. 3, WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Qualification for this list is by virtue of a mundane statistical curiosity, and does not add any encyclopedic value. Contested PROD on the weak basis of "the phenomenon is described in multiple secondary sources": but the sole reference given is a stat-of-the-day type article listing a journalist's opinion on the ten best three-club players, which is hardly a strong supporting reference to establish the notability of this concept as a whole. I would not be averse to putting a small table listing the four 5-club players in a new subsection of List of VFL/AFL records under "Most clubs in a career" (i.e. a minor partial merge), but I would delete this article without retaining any other content. Aspirex (talk) 22:05, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. A well-known phenomenon in Australian rules football, with a notable threshold. The article cited is related to a book which expands on the concept. This article also discusses three-club players (in the context of club loyalty, etc.), while this one looks at four-club players. StAnselm (talk) 22:31, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment The Mark Fine book linked to is called "The Book of Footy Lists" – a book whose sole purpose is as a collection of WP:INDISCRIMINATE information, and therefore weak evidence to support notability for Wikipedia. The second article mentions three-club players, but it also mentions four-club players, two-club players and one-club players no less prominently; there's nothing in it to back StAnselm's suggestion that three clubs is the threshold of notability; and in any case, if it's all in the context of the describing club loyalty, then it supports the notability of an article about club loyalty, not a bare list of players who fit the three-club criterion. Aspirex (talk) 22:59, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * No, it is not true to say that this article "mentions two-club players no less prominently" - the context clearly suggests that three clubs is the threshold - the second and third subheadings focus exclusively on three clubs as the benchmark for the phenomenon. (E.g. Denis Lanigan as "the man who started it all".) StAnselm (talk) 00:58, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Absolute WP:LISTCRUFT trivia, about as useful as "AFL players who have three children or more". What is encyclopedic about being a journeyman footballer who cannot hold down a job with one club? WWGB (talk) 04:35, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Pure WP:LISTCRUFT. There is no encyclopedic value to a list of players who have played for 'x' number of teams, regardless of sport. — Jkudlick t c s 05:46, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, essentially per Aspirex above; this is not a notable or widely discussed statistic, nor is it a useful way to categorise or compare players. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:41, 26 September 2015 (UTC).
 * Delete common in major professional sports to play for 3 or more teams in a career, not a defining feature. LibStar (talk) 07:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete This is listcruft and not at all an unusual event. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 22:06, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as stated by editors Aspirex and Lankiveil this is not a notable or widely discussed statistic, nor is it a useful way to categorise or compare players hence it is indescriminate info and violates WP:NOT. --Bejnar (talk) 05:50, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom and above editors, WP:LISTCRUFT.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:34, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


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