Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Victoria Crosses by school


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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 12:41, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

List of Victoria Crosses by school

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How is this in any way a notable cross-categorization? The only purpose I can think of for this article is giving fancy schools bragging rights, which obviously isn’t the purpose of Wikipedia. Dronebogus (talk) 09:26, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete we cannot have endless cross-categorization like this. VC winners have pages, most of the schools have pages, don't see what value this adds to the encyclopedia. Mztourist (talk) 09:36, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I could find no evidence of notability of the subject and Wikipedia has a few rules like WP:NOTCATALOG-6 that don't like articles like this for their arbitrary nature. This is just like last weeks AFD over List of Victoria Crosses by star sign and it should have the same result. Dushan Jugum (talk) 09:44, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete for the reasons given.  Athel cb (talk) 09:47, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. This clearly meets WP:GNG. Schools are rightly proud of their former pupils who have won the Victoria Cross and these are detailed in numerous sources. This is absolutely nothing like the fictitious List of Victoria Crosses by star sign, as that would be a purely arbitrary list. This is very clearly not such a list. It is not a made-up categorisation as seems to be suggested, but one that is very definitely "a thing". -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Are these sources respected 3rd-party outlets or are they just school-published pieces bragging about their more notable graduates? Dronebogus (talk) 10:16, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I will remove my vote for two good refs that say in detail that there is a trend or relationship between these two things or three good refs that have made similar lists and commented on them in detail (I promise not to No true Scotsman you). The whole page is WP:SYNTHESIS. But you are right it is one step up on star sign (forgive my hyperbole) as 'The United Front of Sagittarians' newsletter has not bragged about it...yet. Dushan Jugum (talk) 20:08, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete (for now): Schools are proud (though I'm not sure about "rightfully") about this specific aspect of their students achievements, but do independent sources discuss the list as a group? If not then it is simply not appropriate to have this list, though then any count that can be sourced to independent sources can be included on the school's article. BilledMammal (talk) 23:52, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete. per nom. About as much school cruft puffery as this article: Articles for deletion/List of Christian Brothers school alumni (2nd nomination). Ajf773 (talk) 10:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Yet another example of waving the old school tie. WWGB (talk) 11:15, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per the nom. Wikipedia is not a WP:DIRECTORY or a WP:WEBHOST for school marketing boards, nor a hub for WP:TRIVIA fans. Cross-categorization has limits, and this article is far beyond them. Newshunter12 (talk) 01:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete this is not found in RS, the school articles and articles about the recipients are the places to note these connections. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:00, 30 September 2021 (UTC)


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