Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! episodes (2023)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. UtherSRG (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

List of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! episodes (2023)

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While the show itself is clearly notable, it's not clear that the list of individual episodes is necessary. At present, this page (as well as those for other years) uses only primary sources: one for the WW...DTM archive and one to Twitter. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:48, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:44, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, List of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! episodes only listed years of airing rather than including every single episodes since it's first airing. Isn't that list needed to have some changes as well? VernardoLau (talk) 16:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Needlessly to ask that we shall need to edit List of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! episodes since last time I was commented on whether that list would need changes. VernardoLau (talk) 21:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 22:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - You've only nominated the list of lists, and not the lists themselves. After two relistings, it's too late to add them all to this nom if that was intended. A list of lists is just a navigational aid and isn't required to be independently notable. My mistake. I must've opened both the nominated article and the one linked by the first commenter and got confused. Still, I don't see a reason to delete just 2023's episodes when these exist for every year (or at least many years). We don't have a great guideline to determine when we should list out radio/podcast episodes (and then whether to distinguish between fiction, variety, interview, etc.). I guess it'll come down, in some fashion, to "would the ideal article about the show include a list of episodes if it didn't skew the size/npov of the article?" If yes, then a spin-off list may make sense, and I guess that's where I land here. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 03:51, 29 December 2023 (UTC) &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk \\ 17:13, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Rhododendrites: Can you explain how this article is a list of lists? The nominated article is a list of episodes that came out in 2023. Are you thinking of List of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! episodes? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:36, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Rhododendrites: I decided to nominate one article instead of every one of them despite knowing that most of them have the same issue. I wanted to see how people would respond. This feels a bit like WP:WHATABOUTX. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:52, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment why not take a page from WP:TVSPLIT, this doesn't seem too long and could be kept on the main article page, and just leave a redirect? microbiology Marcus (petri dish·growths) 15:56, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * MicrobiologyMarcus: I think part of the issue there may be that Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! has been out since 1998. As such, if we kept all the episodes on the main page, there may be undue weight. The lists of episodes page is a list of lists. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:38, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep - the page needs sourcing, there is no denying that - but it would be too large to merge into another article. Additionally, it does not make sense to delete this page and not the other lists; where would all this information go, or even a condensed version? I understand that the intention was to see how editors would respond to deletion, but I think deleting this page would just put huge holes in the project without fixing anything. I would recommend working on sourcing and expanding this page OR, if it must be merged, merging some of the lists together (perhaps by decades? e.g. List of 2010s Wait Wait Don't Tell me! episodes) DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 01:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Do you have any sources for episodes of the show -- either in individual years or for the decades? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.