Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Western film actors 2


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The result was delete. - PeaceNT (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

List of Western film actors
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This is the second AfD for this article. See Articles for deletion/List of Western film actors result was delete. This article is recreated without including horses this time only actors. The Category:Western film actors would seem to meet any requirements of this previously deleted by AfD article Jeepday (talk) 02:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure how many of the previous users are part of Wikipedia's film project, so I've posted a link to this debate on the talk page over there, to helpfully stimulate the debate either way. Lugnuts (talk) 08:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 'Delete Just delete the list -categories can serve that purpose. I only created it when it looked like the category was going up for the chop but they saved it -so no point in having both. So long as both aren't deleted  ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦       Talk? 09:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Nom voting Delete and redirect to Category:Western film actors. With a major contributer to the article User:Blofeld of SPECTRE (Sir Blofeld) voting delete a speed delete per CSD might be appropriate as well. Jeepday (talk) 13:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom but without the cross-space redirect. Otto4711 (talk) 14:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. It requires a POV or even OR judgement call to decide who qualifies as a "western film actor" as there are many actors -- like, say, Sharon Stone -- who dabbled in the genre but are not readily considered western actors. Who to include? No, something like this is better to handle as a category. However to be fair if this list has gone to AFD, I trust that to be fair and NPOV any similar genre lists need to be deleted as well. 23skidoo (talk) 15:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per 23skidoo. There is no independent criteria for what determines a Western actor.  The article's criteria for a Western actor is originally derived, so anyone could include a name based on their interpretation of what constitutes a Western film, much less a "major" one, or exaggerating a passing Western role. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 21:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Now THIS is an indiscriminate list that works better as a category. Yes, DeForest Kelley was a western actor before he was Dr. McCoy, but this article doesn't tell you that he was in "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral".  Mandsford (talk) 22:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Thoroughly indiscriminate list. There was a time in Hollywood when just about everyone appeared in westerns. You could make a list of comedy films or films noirs and have pretty much the same group of actors. And for most of them, being in a western was hardly a defining characteristic. Bob Hope, Humphrey Bogart, Marlene Dietrich, Shirley MacLaine...even Laurel and Hdry made a (damn funny) western. hell - let's get more recent and add Gene Wilder, Kenneth Branagh, Will Smith, Catherine Zeta-Jones... and as pointed out, it takes a judgement call to say whether an actor is best known for Westerns olr anything else (I see your DeForest Kelley and raise you MASH's Harry Morgan (heh... almost typed "Harry Potter" :), Hitchcock favourite Jimmy Stewart and, well, as to Clark Gable, frankly I don't give a damn. And Marlon Brando???). Completely non-defining and indiscriminate. Grutness...wha?  00:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


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