Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of White Latin Americans


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete both. Secret account 01:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

List of White Latin Americans

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Fails WP:V. This seems to be an arbitrary list with no references cited that support that any of these individuals meet the criteria as being born of European descent. Nv8200p talk 02:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following page for the same reason and the discussion below:
 * -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 20:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin: 3 out of the 4 Keeps are the same IP -81.159.137.3. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 19:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, this is a sourced article and contributors have spent hard work and lots of time on the article. --Chinese3126 (talk) 02:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, well, I spend a lot of time doing my hair, but still, its no good.. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Bleedin' 'orrible - unencyclopediC! -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 02:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This is WP:OR like you've never seen. Delete. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 02:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as a directory of loosely associated topics. Besides their heritage, these people have nothing in common. In addition, the list smacks greatly of original research. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 02:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Wryspy (talk) 02:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Arbitrary ethnic categorization without aubstantiation. —SlamDiego&#8592;T 05:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:V.  Altairisfar talk  07:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete clearly nonsense, and aren't most Latin Americans decended from Europeans? --Nick Dowling (talk) 07:39, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. As mentioned, except for a vanishingly small number of native Amerindian groups that have never intermarried with immigrants, ALL of the people in Latin America have some level of European descent. The terminology that is being coined to justify someone's inclusion on this list is not widespread or accepted, and is not referenced in any case, making the entire list meaningless (and borderline racist). It has as much encyclopedic value as, "List of People Who Have Stood in My Kitchen." Ig8887 (talk) 16:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - This is always considered to be raciast by non whites...anything done to do with white people, other people simply dont like it....but has this -List of Afro-Latin Americans - been considered for deletion??...eerr no...because noone would consider this to be offensive....and no, white latin americans only represent a third of the whole population in total and are a minority in most countries. Also there is alot of references in the 'actual article' to show they are white etc..and why does this never happen to white people in the USA...nobody questions the USA's definition of ethnicity. - 81.159.137.3 (talk) 19:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I nominated the article and I think I classify as white. See for yourself. It's a crappy list based on opinion or original research -Nv8200p talk 20:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * List of Afro-Latin Americans has been added to this afd. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 20:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment regardless of the merits of this proposal, none of the arguments advanced above this point can be claimed as applicable to this newly added category List of Afro-Latin Americans since the writers of those arguments did not have this category presented to them for consideration. Hmains (talk) 19:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete for WP:V. This list has the same problems. -Nv8200p talk 20:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Can someone tell me what the difference is, between the lists of all the List of "German-American", "Italian-American" and "English Americans" etc.. since they are all about their heritage/ethnic background.. 81.159.137.3 (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Unlike country of origin, race involves WP:OR. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 20:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.   -- --  pb30 < talk > 22:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * keep List of Afro-Latin Americans. This is one article of a pattern of such such articles found in Category:People of Black African descent--all of which are legitimate encyclopedic WP articles--and this article is required for complete coverage of this subject. Hmains (talk) 19:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - lists can be useful for identifying articles that are needed (as red links), but this list could cover half to three-quarters of the population of Central and South America. That makes it much too large to be worthwhile.  I note that there are sublists by nationality, but they could be adequately dealt with in a category (and probably are).  Peterkingiron (talk) 01:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Wrong!! The white population is only a third of the pop in Latin America, read the article!..This is a list only people of mainly White descent, this doesnt include people any other origin... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.118.92 (talk) 20:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, define what "mainly White" means. Because I'm pretty sure that no two people are going to agree on exactly what percentage of European you need in you to qualify as "white", and I'm also pretty sure at least one person on that list would be offended to hear themselves described as "white". If the list were, "Notable Latin Americans who have one or more grandparent who was born in a European country," that would probably still be a worthless article, but it could be researched and sourced. Being "white" is a virtually meaningless term that no two people will agree on. --Ig8887 (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete new list of Afro-Latin Americans, for all the same reasons. --Ig8887 (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment, what i meant by define white, is exactly the same as defining someone who is White in the USA or Europe...it doesnt seems to be hard to see that Al Pacino, Johnny depp or Robert De Niro are universly seen to be White people...but who's researched their background, hardly anybody...but to do that with Latin americans is different?..we have people like Jose Marti who are born to spanish parents. Most here are reasearched articles..just an example...If the list is pointless, then why isnt the main article usless also?.. 86.152.122.244 (talk) 18:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * delete - pointless —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.82.139.5 (talk) 12:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.