Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of abbeys and priories in England – Counties M to W


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. With no prejudice to discussion elsewhere agreeing to organise the content differently. Davewild (talk) 08:08, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

List of abbeys and priories in England – Counties M to W

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This partially duplicates the scope of List of abbeys and priories in England – Counties H-W cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 03:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep. Clearly there has been some confusion somewhere, but this is something which looks better solved by a content discussion. If, after agreeing what information should go where, there are redundant articles duplicating information, we can probably speedy delete those as a G6 and/or G7 assuming it's uncontroversial. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 22:23, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I did suggest at User talk:JohnArmagh that these lists would be better organised by county, similar to the List of windmills in England. Mjroots (talk) 07:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply They are mostly organized by county if you check the wikicode. It just transcludes a bunch of separate templates and pages.  One of the problems is that by transcluding them all on one page, the entire thing loads very slowly. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk)  16:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep This is clearly a duplicate so the decision of how to split the lists should be done on a tlak page NOT at AFD. iN my view H-W would be far too bloated and M-W is reasonable.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:08, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep per Dr. Blofeld. The issue of how the various lists of abbeys and priories is split should be discussed elsewhere, probably at WikiProject level. Mjroots (talk) 07:04, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep -- I would however suggest that the article should segregate medieval monasteries (all dissolved in 1537-9) from those founded in the 19th and 20th centuries. The question is thus about how they should be organised.  With historical subjects it is common to use pre-1974 counties as the use of the current ones is anachronistic.  It may be that the article needs to be split further.  Note: those Cathedrals that were also monasteries were dissolved at the Dissolution, but almost immediately refounded as colleges of secular canons (which are not monasteries).   Peterkingiron (talk) 22:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.