Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of active NFL players who have spent their entire career with one franchise


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  07:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

List of active NFL players who have spent their entire career with one franchise

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This list lacks notability per our guidelines (WP:LISTN), as it is not discussed "as a group or set by independent reliable sources." This falls clearly into WP:NOTSTATS and WP:LISTCRUFT. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 21:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete man, not everything needs to be listed. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 22:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak move to List of NFL players who have spent their entire career with one franchise and expand scope accordingly. "NFL players who have only played for one team" definitely sees some discussion as a natural grouping, eg here or here, but cross-referencing that to only include currently active players seems a step too far. However, there is probably just about enough here to form the nucleus of a list with expanded scope (not limited to active players) (compare List of one-club men in association football or List of NBA players who have spent their entire career with one franchise). That said, I would not mind if people would rather just WP:TNT this one. Lowercaserho (talk) 01:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, both links you provided are to the best players to play for one team for their career. Not every player, or every player over an arbitrary time limit. I believe the NFL is unique, in that it was very common for players to play their whole career with one team before free agency in the mid-1990s. Let's say this list sets an arbitrary time limit, like 10 seasons, similar to the NBA list. Does anyone have an idea how many people this would include? It would require a significant amount of digging, especially considering the NFL is 100 years old. There just isn't any source that I have seen that lists or groups all of these players together. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @ 02:29, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That there are discussions of the best players who are members of a specific group indicates to me that the grouping is a natural one. That is, it's discussing the group "all players who played for only one team", and then subjectively picking out the best players from that group. It wouldn't make sense to pick the best players from the group if it weren't considered a meaningful group in the first place. To my mind, that's enough for WP:LISTN. I can definitely see the concerns regarding WP:VER and WP:OR, though. Even if the grouping is notable enough for a list, it may inherently be impossible to actually compile such a list. As stated, my vote is only a very weak one and I wouldn't greatly object if this were deleted. Lowercaserho (talk) 03:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete non notable and useless list. – Sabbatino (talk) 08:31, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete such a list might have a good home in a sports almanac or sports encyclopedia, but it is too granular in detail for inclusion here. Try another wiki.--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:01, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. I agree that this topic gets discussed sometimes, but many, many, many active players have played their entire career with one team (e.g., almost every rookie to start with), making the arbitrary cutoff at 10 years necessary.  But once that cutoff is introduced, the list is really List of active NFL players who have spent their entire career of at least 10 years with one franchise, which is not the natural way this topic gets discussed. Rlendog (talk) 14:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per and . The list is both too broad in scope as defined, as well as not discussed as a standalone group: while the topic of "playing their entire career with one franchise" does indeed get discussed, it is always in conjunction with another natural grouping (best players, longest careers, etc.). So it isn't really a natural grouping on its own, but a qualifier/filter of other natural groupings. "All active NFL players" isn't something we chronicle as a list (nor is "all active NFL players with 10 or more years of service"), so I don't think we should be doing so for this subgrouping, either.   C Thomas3   (talk) 20:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


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