Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of actors considered the best


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The result was   delete. WP:SNOW. postdlf (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

List of actors considered the best

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Listcruft and completely subjective article. Other "considered the best" lists are based on specific surveys and polls. Neil N  talk to me 03:46, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I am looking for specific surveys and polls, included in the list are those who topped the the American Film Institute's survey--TBBC (talk) 04:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC).
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 * Delete and maybe start over. This is more like a List of actors with the most awards, which is not the same thing as the "best", whatever that means. Where's Brando? Olivier? Bogart may be the greatest star/legend, but his name doesn't really come up in the best actor discussion. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:30, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I was hoping when I found the surveys to find both Marlon Brando and Laurence Olivier topped at least one. I even did a google search for greatest British actor, but most of those polls were IMDB made by one user, not some British film institute or magazine or something like that --TBBC (talk) 04:52, 4 December 2014 (UTC).
 * Comment No Burt Reynolds on the list?  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 2:58 am, Today (UTC−5)
 * Can that vote not count? That's more POV than anything, there are precisely ZERO of my favourite actors on the list.--

TBBC (talk) 09:50, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, Mr. Comedy. Delete as it fails WP:V and is a huge slice of WP:OR.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * So I'll take that as Delete and maybe start over--TBBC (talk) 10:46, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No, take that as a delete and leave it at that.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 23:55, 4 December 2014 (UTC)


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 * Keep - As I explained to you I did look for specific polls, and I'm sure I'll find some. --TBBC (talk) 23:33, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - Give it time.--TBBC (talk) 23:33, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No need to !vote twice.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 23:55, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment. Well as I previous said, I don't include IMDB user polls.--TBBC (talk) 11:05, 5 December 2014 (UTC) Comment. As I keep saying, it won't just be awards, it'd be polls from critics, magazines, tv stations etc. etc. etc. as soon as I find them.--TBBC (talk) 01:13, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:V and WP:OR. Polls wouldn't generally be considered reliable secondary sources anyway.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 23:55, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, inherently subjective, if someone mentioned in a RS that they thought that William Shatner or Britney Spears were the best actors of all time, should we include them here? A retitled article, framed around User:Clarityfiend's suggestion of collecting actors who have won the highest number of awards, might be a good way to proceed.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:06, 5 December 2014 (UTC).
 * Delete - Inclusion criteria for this list is impossible to objectively define, and therefore violates WP:NPOV and has the potential to devolve into original research per WP:OR if any attempt is made to determine the "best" by counting awards. As an encyclopedia we should be listing Academy Awards, Golden Globes, BAFTAs, Emmys, etc., not trying make subjective pronouncements.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:05, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Your methodology/selection process is the very definition of original research. And, yes, it's a problem: this list, as defined, should not exist.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I think you're taking the wrong approach. Don't go by awards. (Does anybody think The Greatest Show on Earth is a good film, even though it won a couple of Oscars and Golden Globes?) Look for respected actors, directors and reviewers who voice their opinions. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:54, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment. How is this list indiscriminate.--TBBC (talk) 11:01, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt highly indiscriminate listcruft.  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 01:22, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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