Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of actors who have played video game characters


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. There are good arguments on both sides. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 21:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

List of actors who have played video game characters

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Fails WP:N and violates WP:NOT. A pointless trivia list, at best. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 15:50, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Irretrievably fails WP:NOTDIR, probably runs afoul of WP:N, and abrades WP:BIO. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 16:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete changed to Neutral they say never call stuff "cruft" ... okay, there's an exception to everything!--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've read through everyone's comments here. I've done some discussing on other topics and wrote an essay at WP:DISCRIMINATE -which does apply in that it is a specific list.  I don't necessarily think it is good list or one that can be maintained, but then we're delving into my personal opinion.  As much as "I like it it" is not a reason to keep, "I don't like it" is not a reason to delete.  Can't quite get over to keep just yet... but I'll pull my delete position.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep It should be titled List of actors who have played video game characters in movies. Or perhaps include those who do acting for cutscreens in games as well.  The movies they are in should be in a third box, not jammed into the second one as it is now.  It is a valid list, helping people interested in this, find wikipedia articles for it.   D r e a m Focus  23:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment — "I like it" is not a valid basis for keeping a noncompliant article.—Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 23:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Acceptable list.  Brings together Wikipedia  content for the  sake of navigation (One person's trivia is another's important content) . Browsing is one of the key functions of any encyclopedia. DGG (talk) 03:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete This list is overly indiscriminate and I can't imagine how this improves navigation within Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a directory, and the list articles we have should be about notable, defined subjects. This list is a vaguely defined collection of people with little to no discernable relationship with each other.  Per WP:SALAT, the inclusion criteria is just too broad to have an encyclopedic article built from it.  Them  From  Space  03:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It's essentially trivia. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 13:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. DGG has made a cogent point. The list is not trivia nor an indiscriminate collection of information, as it serves as a navigation aid that serves to improve the project... one that meets the criteria of WP:STAND as it is based on reliable sources. Should the nom wish the numerous references be brought over from the 18 listed articles, fine... but that is a matter for cleanup and not deletion. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 19:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete agreed that it's indiscriminate, as it poses a question rather than answers one; why? It's also redundant to List of movies based on video games. The title isn't explanatory, what it's saying is "list of actors who have portrayed existing video game characters in live action films", except that the characters are listed first making it more "video game characters who have been portrayed in live action films". Considering it would be very difficult to argue that portraying a video game character is a high-point in anybody's career, that movies based on video games are noted for often having little if anything to do with the source material, and that characters get totally reworked or omitted, it's not making a lot of sense to zoom in on it. Anybody who, for whatever reason, wants to look at video game characters being portrayed by actors has a clear path from the movies based on video games list; movie articles have cast/character lists. That's aside from the massive amount of anime based on games, which poses further questions. I think it's just a case of a fuzzy idea which seemed good at the time but hadn't been thought through. Someoneanother 23:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - It is discriminate, and useful for navigation. Maybe could use a better name. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 18:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NOTDIR. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Per DGG. One day I will have to just ditto, but not yet: Propose that the article could use someone truly heroic to look up all those names on the Internet Movie Database and provide citations. Anarchangel (talk) 08:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Except, of course, that IMDB is not a reliable source. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 13:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * With respects, let's assume that User:Anarchangel meant that IMDB might be used as a tool to begin a search for RS about the subject and the actors... and not that the user meant that IMDB was itself to be used as a source. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 21:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Please don't. No one was born knowing the list of unreliable sources experienced wiki editors keep in their heads, I feel no shame in that regard. Anarchangel (talk) 11:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm going to have to say keep on this one as this looks like an acceptable list per WP:SALAT. Looking at List of films based on video games, I don't see the redundancy mentioned above as I think this list focus more on notable actors who have played film roles of notable VG characters, which is not necessarily the same as the VG films list (hence why I don't think a merge could be possible). Otherwise, it's serving its purpose as a list. MuZemike 01:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Would editors please learn what the word "indiscriminate" means? This is a very well-defined list: notable actors who have played characters from video games in a notable film. Quite simple. Why is it "trivia" to know this? Fences  &amp;  Windows  17:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of what indiscriminate means, which is why I fail to see any merit in a list of actors who have portrayed video game characters in films. It doesn't define the actors, it doesn't define the characters, it is just trivia for that reason and I'm questioning the validity of the list on the same grounds. You are welcome to disagree but "Would editors please learn what the word "indiscriminate" means?" is just fucking insulting. Someoneanother 19:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.