Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of actors who played Nazis in movies


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete Gnangarra 11:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

List of actors who played Nazis in movies

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Indiscriminate list. There's nothing notable about playing a Nazi character and there's no reason why actors such as Brando and Will Ferrell should be grouped together just because they happened to have portrayed a Nazi at some point in their careers. Saikokira 01:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Can agree with that. A lot of the actors on that page aren't even notable. Delete. Alex43223T 03:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. This should be at most a category, but even then it might not be NPOV. --Wirbelwind ヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 08:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NPOV Alf Photoman  13:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'd also like to point out that the title is a tad bit grammatically incorrect, and should be List of actors who have played a Nazi in film, since as it is, you'd have to play as more than one Nazi to qualify.--SeizureDog 14:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete - Useless, indiscriminate list. -- Chairman S. Talk  Contribs  22:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Useful index to information in Wikipedia. Someone who wonders "who was the actor who played the Nazi in that film, I think it was called The Enemy or something like that" can browse this list. Categories don't do that. Fg2 01:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:NOT. --Wirbelwind ヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 01:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete wtf, this article is awful. J&#39;onn J&#39;onzz 01:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep lists of character roles serve a serious purpose in helping anyone interested in how actors approach those roles. Noroton 02:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * This list tells us nothing about how actors approach playing a Nazi. Otto4711 14:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions. -- Noroton 03:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyone interested in this discussion may also be interested in the very similar one at Articles for deletion/List of actors who played President of the United States. Noroton 03:16, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. Not "very" similar, unless you consider playing a generic Nazi character as significant as playing the President of the United States. This list is many, many times worse than that one. Saikokira 06:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I consider one type of role about as significant as another for the purpose of lists of actors who play them. I couldn't care less what significance the role plays in a particular actor's career. What's significant is how actors play those roles, and to study that or even have an interest in that would, I think, be the purpose of a reader coming to this article. I think that's a serious purpose well served by a Wikipedia article. I would break up the list at least into categories of "Comedic Nazis", "Menacing Nazis" and "Other". You could probably have a thousand lists of types of characters actors play. Good thing Wikipedia isn't a paper encyclopedia. Too bad this article looks like it's a goner. Noroton 17:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment "Comedic" Nazis. Do you mean "Comic" Nazis? That is going far. Comic Nazis have practically always (I cannot think of an exception just now) been the result of "a play in the play". Bourvil and Louis de Funès in La Grande Vadrouille are supreme examples of this. If you include them, you will have to include Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Trini Lopez ... (The Dirty Dozen). "Other Nazis" is even worse. There is nothing exclusively German or exclusively "1933-1945"-ish about Nazism. Who is to stop my POV from including John Wayne for his role in Green Berets? Basically this list is useless (when completed it will contain thousands of names without any connection between them, and as Sam Blacketer said, any prolific actor should have played a Nazi at one time or other) and simply invites POV inclusions (is the historical guy being portrayed really a Nazi - at the time when this is supposed to take place? what constitutes a Nazi in films - surely most people who go to this list will just be looking for that smart American in the German uniform? how convincing has the play acting in "the play in the play" have to be for it to constitute "playing a comic Nazi"?).--Pan Gerwazy


 * Delete - actors can play dozens or hundreds of roles in their careers. There's nothing significant about playing a Nazi. Otto4711 03:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as Otto said "a Nazi" is not a special highight of a career. List of actors who played Adolf Hitler might be comparable to the US President role. This list is more like List of actors who have played a Republican. Also, this list is incomplete and would likely be in the thousands if it were completed. Were the really only two Nazi characters in Schindler's List? None at all in Hogan's Heroes, 'Allo 'Allo! or The Sound of Music? --Scott Davis Talk 07:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete. Apart from being useless, there are a few other problems. Who is to say that Erwin Rommel and other anti-Hitler conspirators like Stauffenberg and York were nazis? Some of them changed their political opinion. What about Standartenführer Stirlitz? Actually, what the author was thinking of was "List of actors who once played a role which involved wearing a German WWII uniform." Silly. But add the word "black" before "actors" and it becomes less silly, of course. --Pan Gerwazy 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Noroton's rationale. ≈≈Carolfrog≈≈♦тос♦ 16:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, because it's an indiscriminate list: any prolific film actor would probably be cast as a Nazi at some point. I wouldn't be opposed to a list of actors who have made a specialism of playing Nazis. Sam Blacketer 17:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, because other lists, such as one of actors who play presidents have been voted as keeps, and also because Nazis are one of the most influential and therefore significant groups of the 20th century, regardless of their wickedness, and therefore readers of Wikipedia, whether historians, or just people interested in films, are really likely to check out such useful and relevant articles as this one. Have a spectacular Spring Break!  Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 22:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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