Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of airports in the New York City area


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The result was   merge to Aviation in New York City.  MBisanz  talk 03:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

List of airports in the New York City area

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This list article is an almost exact duplication of what already exists in List of airports in New York, List of airports in New Jersey, and List of airports in Connecticut, a combination of the three so to say. Unless you prefer merging all three articles, which I do not recommend considering how long this article would be if that were to happen, this article is completely useless. It also contains trivial and Fancruft information since very few people would be interested in what airports serve the "New York City area," and it is hard to understand exactly what "area" is it referring to The Legendary Ranger (talk) 01:04, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Obviously it is not the case that this list simply combines the other 3 lists, since there is plenty of content in those lists that is not included here. It seems to me that someone looking for navigational assistance to airports that serve the "Tri-State (New York-New Jersey-Connecticut) metropolitan area" (an area defined precisely at New York metropolitan area) would find this list more useful than having to go to all 3 of the state lists and work out which airports relate to the NYC area and which ones don't.  --Arxiloxos (talk) 01:32, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: What basis is the assertion that "very few people would be interested in what airports serve the 'New York City area'"? If someone wanted to visit the New York metropolitan area (specifically New York City, an internationally famous area), they would definitely want to know what airports serve that area, and would probably enter something like "airports in New York City" in the search box. Zzyzx11 (talk) 19:49, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply: My concern is that everything in here already exists in those articles and thus find it pointless for an article to have things that other articles already have, but if you really want to keep the information here, it can easily be added to New York metropolitan area, which is currently not that long. Also, we are not a travel guide, so if someone wants to "look for navigational assistance to airports that serve the Tri-State (New York-New Jersey-Connecticut) metropolitan area," he or she should consult travel websites, brochures, maps, etc. not Wikipedia. If someone wants to look for airports that serve New York City, the article List of airports in New York already has what they need. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 22:46, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you are misunderstanding what was meant by "navigational assistance". I took it to mean navigation around Wikipedia, not navigation in the real world. As regards List of airports in New York, that is an article about New York State that includes airports that don't serve New York City and excludes those outside the state that do serve the city. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:34, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment:Claiming that "very few people would be interested" is a misrepresentation since nearly 8,000 people have viewed the article in the last 30 days. The tri-state NY metro area is the largest "market" in the United States Djflem (talk)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Connecticut-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep/rename actually provides a better overview than the list article, although I am not sure if the title should be Airports in the New York metropolitan area as it gives more info then the list articles. MilborneOne (talk) 13:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep/Re-name redact, redirect to re-named Airports in New York Metro Area Djflem (talk) 15:45, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to Aviation in New York City which covers the same subject area, although not in list form. — daranz [ t ] 20:12, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:20, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

 or Reduce and rename shorten list and re-name Airports in the Port of New York and New Jersey, which along with other suggestion addresses nominator area concerns. Djflem (talk) 
 * Merge Merge with Aviation in New York City as per Daranz -- Cameron11598  (Converse) 22:06, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and rename to Aviation in the New York metropolitan area to clearly encompass regional market within title. Djflem (talk) 23:47, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong | gossip _ 17:06, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Second relist comments: Looking for input on whether this article should be merged with Aviation in New York City, or renamed to be a non-list article and kept separate from the aviation article. ‑Scottywong | spout _  17:08, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge - Potentially merge with Aviation in New York City per Daranz. My reading of WP:NOTDIR and WP:SALAT leads me to conclude that this is clearly not an appropriate stand alone list. NickCT (talk) 17:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Rename to non-list article Airports in the New York metropolitan area- which is what article covers. The NY metro areas, with 25 million residents is the largest air market in the USA, one of the nation's major airfreight hubs, and the port of entry for millions of visitors and thousands of immigrants each year. The separate state lists do not relay that fact in a meaningful way. Three of the airports in the Aviation in New York City article are in New Jersey, so in itself that article is titled incorrectly. Djflem (talk) 22:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to Aviation in New York City per WP:SAL and WP:SALAT; not large enough for a stand-alone list unfortunately.
 * Comment: Half of the airports mentioned in Aviation in NYC are not in NYC, so it is not a good title and will need to be changed Djflem (talk) 20:56, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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