Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of albums containing a hidden track


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep. Appears to meet WP:LIST, and would be less useful as a category; this is the correct way to present the material. It's quite well researched and written, could do with some citations though. Black Kite 18:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

List of albums containing a hidden track
Keep, how would I know where to look if I want to know which albums have hidden tracks without this article? Not all of the albums on this page have pages of their own. Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 01:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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A very broad, essentially endless list. Many albums have hidden tracks, so it's not particularly special. This could perhaps be turned into a category. Spellcast (talk) 04:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm sure this used to be a category as well, but it got deleted, about a year ago I think.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 05:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete and make into category - Per nom.  a s e nine  say what?  05:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Convert to a category - the list went too long. Alexius08 is welcome to talk about his contributions. 06:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I congratulate you on a new reason for deletion: "too long". Next up: "too much material" and then "too informative", followed by "too notable"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs) 11:50, 14 May 2008


 * Comment The Category Category:Albums with hidden tracks was deleted sometime ago. Lugnuts (talk) 07:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep or delete; do not create category. The category was deleted 2007 JUL 9. It's not good material for a category because having a hidden track is not defining for an album. If it's going to be here, has to be a list. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:08, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah a hidden track is a non-defining and trivial part of an album. I can't see how it's significantly more special than a skit or interlude. Spellcast (talk) 09:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Good point Lugnuts. I was just about to mention that if it was converted to a category, someone would probably just come along and nominate it for deletion. Though the article does very little for me personally, I "could possibly" see where it might be useful to collectors. As for the rationale, I guess the same thing could be said for "lists of guitarists" or "lists of drummers"... etc. I'm not voting on this issue though, just sharing my thoughts. -- WikHead (talk) 08:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to be a good article and meets WP:List Ijanderson977 (talk) 10:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Ijanderson977. I think this could become a good article with a little cleanup. Lugnuts (talk) 10:59, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup. This topic is viable and certainly not likely to be an "endless list" (a rationale I often use myself for deleting list articles, I might add). In this case, also, the albums themselves serve to be the source for the purposes of verification, so confirming the existence of these tracks is easy. The lead should be rewritten a bit so that it doesn't come off as a "manual." 23skidoo (talk) 15:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The albums themselves can't be used to source this because they're hidden tracks. If the album credited these songs in the liner notes, it wouldn't be a hidden track. Spellcast (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Totally keep dude. It's very useful. -- ...RuineЯ|Chat... 21:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 16:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 16:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, per WP:LC points 3, 6 and 7. Stifle (talk) 19:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's none of those. Keep encyclopedic, verifiable. --Pwnage8 (talk) 23:03, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep This is one of the cases where a list is better because of the additional information that can be--and is--given. Good way to present the material. There is no rule we cant keep a list and a category--but i dont think we need a category for this one. DGG (talk) 03:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep : This list seems to meet WP:LIST. No need to create a category (too trivial). Europe22 (talk) 17:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep : From a totally mundane standpoint, this information is useful so it would be a pity to lose it. (I was wondering why my iTunes import of "Your Guardian Angel" seemed to have messed up, and a quick Google search for "Your Guardian Angel" "silence at the end" found this page, and I realized it wasn't a problem with the iTunes import; the track on the CD actually does have 1 min 40 sec silence at the end.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.142.82.158 (talk) 16:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Fairly well written. Contains useful information that would be too tedious to find individially on each album's article. To solve the "too long" problem, keep only artists that have a Wikipedia page on the list. --FlyingPenguins (talk) 20:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


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