Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of albums released in 2009


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to 2009 in music. History retained as there is some good sourced material there. Cirt (talk) 11:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

List of albums released in 2009

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Was tagged for CSD with "Better suited as a category, which already exists at Category:2009 albums". That's not a speedy criterion, so I'm taking it here. No opinion. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. As I said in my (apparently misguided) speedy attempt, this already exists as Category:2009 albums, so there's no use in having an article for it. Rwiggum  (Talk /Contrib ) 03:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 05:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 05:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:CRYSTAL or redundant to the category, which is self-maintaining. Stifle (talk) 09:29, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lists and categories are not redundant, but simply two different ways of navigating and organizing the wiki. Not everybody likes to use categories, because the category system is cluttered and difficult to navigate. Also, lists can contain additional information, like in this case proper sourcing for each and every entry. The sources also mean this does not fail any Wikipedia policy with regard to sourcing and/or future releases. --Reinoutr (talk) 10:29, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, partly for the reasons given by Reinoutr. Also, there's no doubt this list is well-sourced. I'm also voting to keep for the fact that this list will allow acknowledgement of upcoming untitled albums within Wikipedia, reducing in theory the temptation to create articles that fall under WP:CRYSTALHAMMER. A category would not serve this purpose very well. I don't agree that in all cases lists and categories on a topic need to exist at the same time, but in this case I'm leaning towards saying yes. 23skidoo (talk) 19:07, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete This seems better suited as a category rather than as a list. Actually, as a list this seems rather unmanageable, considering the number of musical acts out there who could potentially add non-notable albums to the list. A  ni  Mate  19:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Non-notable albums can be added all over Wikipedia (like in List of albums released in 2008) and maintenance issues should never be a reason for deletion. --Reinoutr (talk) 07:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete now, per WP:CRYSTAL; then Keep during 2009, as albums are actually released, per the existing List of albums released in 2007 and List of albums released in 2008. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * All of the information is sourced, which largely defeats the "WP:CRYSTAL" argument in my opinion. --Reinoutr (talk) 07:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2009 in music as a nearly exact duplicate of that article; it can be later restored as a separate article when the article 2009 in music is large enough to justify a split (probably some time in mid-to-late 2009). The crystal ball arguments to delete a well-sourced article like this, however, were rejected when the deletion of 2009 in music on the same grounds was overturned. DHowell (talk) 03:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.