Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of animated television series and films with LGBT themes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Delete. Tawker 06:00, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

List of animated television series and films with LGBT themes
Listcruft  Will  ( E @ )  T  14:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. The issue of LGBT themes in animated series and films is a controversial issue, especially when the product is marketed to children.  However, it is clear that it does exist. Browned.


 * Delete unsourced, contains many entries of a speculative nature (that don't meet WP:V), contains elements of WP:NOR, and it is listcruft to top it all off.--Isotope23 14:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete From the first entry: "In the episode titled Legends Of The Dark Knight, three children tell different Batman adventures, with one of them noting how he admires Batman for his "tight rubber armor." However, this boy is named Joel, and the entire scene is a dig on the Batman movies directed by Joel Schumacher." In other words, it's not an LGBT themed show, and it';s not an LGBT themed series (only a single episode).  And it's unsourced.  This is an unsourced, unverifiable, arbitrary list of arbitrary entertainment media meeting an arbitrary selection criterion interpeted arbitrarily in an apparent effort to present a particular point of view.  It is also largely original research.  Apart from that, and the fact that it is indiscriminate (aka listcruft), it is hardly crap at all. Just zis Guy you know? 15:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per all said above. Grafikm_fr 15:18, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article is about LGBT references in animated series and films, even if it few themes. It would seem that their is a tad bit of homphobia here. User:Browned.  Each episode or theme is referenced with a link to the original show or film.
 * Delete per JzG. That is a offensive and inflammatory suggestion, as if only a gaybasher could possibly seek to apply Wikipedia rules and guidelines.  For my part, this article nukes NPOV in such a comprehensive fashion as to be worthless as genuine information.  It's rife with heavily-slanted inferences that a particular character/ep/series is "LGBT-themed" because a certain character is "often played up as if he were gay" or is "likely" or "possibly" gay, characters disguise themselves in women's clothing, even down to assertions that a character's gender is "unknown."  The citation of Hercules as a LGBT-themed movie on the strength that one of the Greek gods wore lavender-colored sunglasses is priceless.  RGTraynor 16:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It's fine, an accusation of homophobia helps establish that there are no better arguments in favour of the article. Just zis Guy you know? 17:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete Per isotope and zis guy. Unsourced, listcruft, OR, arbitrary, and some of the items (like the Batman bit mentioned above) seem a bit of a stretch. Oh, and spare us the accusations of homophobia. It's a cop-out. Fan1967 16:23, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Most of these are just one example out of many themes of the represented shows. All of them depend on speculation and interpretation. Metros232 16:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Saying all of them are speculation is a bit of a stretch. I'm pretty sure Big Gay Al from South Park is well, gay.  Nevertheless, I'm not seeing the encyclopedic value even in the ones that are not flagrantly OR. Kotepho 18:49, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Isotope23. PJM 19:03, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's unsourced, and it would serve better as an article discussing the history of LGBT themes in animated series and films. And then it would require careful monitoring to prevent POV from creeping in. I'm all for having this discussed, but not in the current format.Captainktainer 19:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, someone's pet project, looks like pure original research. Slowmover 19:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Fancruft, some of those in the list are very far-fetched speculation. --TheKoG (talk|contribs) 19:49, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per all. Ardenn 20:26, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Hirudo 22:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Something in a single episode becomes a "theme"?  Please.  Also, no evidence cartoons intentionally avoid this; that may be true, although at least since Bugs Bunny characters have not just cross-dressed but engaged in same-sex kissing, sham marriage, etc. Шизомби 14:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep several other Wikipedia articles provide a list of LGBT themes in film, television and video games. The subtext provided in animated films and television is obvious if you have read anything about the history of homosexuality in Hollywood, i.e. Vito Russeo's work.  To single out this aritlce for deletation, suggests that people are uncomfortable with the fact that children's cartoons are loaded with gay subtext. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.239.8.116 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete per all above. Homophobia is also rampant in the article.--Jersey Devil 20:37, 23 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.