Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of animated television series of 2017


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that this is too early due to WP:CRYSTAL concerns. Davewild (talk) 18:14, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

List of animated television series of 2017

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Unsourced article for future series - fails WP:GNG. See WP:CRYSTALBALL Flat Out (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep I think it should be kept because animation is such a lengthy process so surely these are already in production. KiwikiKiWi (talk) 09:05, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. I would first refer to WP:NFF which states that
 * 1) "In the case of animated films, reliable sources must confirm that the film is clearly out of the pre-production process, meaning that the final animation frames are actively being drawn and/or rendered, and final recordings of voice-overs and music have commenced"
 * 2) "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (...) should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable (...). " I do think this ought to apply to animation movies, as well.
 * The guideline is about standalone articles though. I think 1 applies because it is grounded on WP:CRYSTALBALL: many films get cancelled at a relatively late stage of the production, in which case we want neither a standalone article nor a mention in another article. I believe 2 ought to apply (which condemns the whole thing) as well but I agree that is more borderline. Tigraan (talk) 09:55, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep Futarama said it best in these situations: "Painstakingly drawn before a live studio audience", and while it is true that these projects typically can't be thrown togather and shoved out in a few months 2017 does seem a little...far for an article on the subject matter. Admittedly at the moment 2017 is close enough to justify some discussion of the matter, but I can't help but feel this is too much in the realm of WP:CRYSTAL at the moment to fully support. TomStar81 (Talk) 11:37, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95  &#40; Talk &#41;  13:54, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * While it's true that animation is a long enough process that some of these are already in the production pipeline today, the problem is that for any number of potential reasons some of them might still fail to ever actually debut anywhere (e.g. turning out to be bad enough that no television network actually wants to pick them up, studio goes bankrupt, and on and so forth), or may end up getting delayed until 2018, 2019 or 2020. When it comes to television series, we do not start an article as soon as we can lean on one source announcing that the show has entered the production process — a television series does not become an appropriate article topic on Wikipedia until it has been officially upfronted by a television network as something that is definitely going to air rather than just being planned to maybe air. And if the series themselves aren't appropriate article topics yet, then we don't need a list of them yet either. Delete as WP:CRYSTAL, without prejudice against recreation in 2017 when we actually start seeing real upfront announcements. Bearcat (talk) 19:38, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:CRYSTAL; let's wait until networks actually announce shows before we create a 'year in' article about them, and all of the shows mentioned have either no sources to their airing or like the fate of Murder Police, might never see a screen.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 03:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


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