Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of articles about Scientology

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The result of the debate was delete. Woohookitty 04:41, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

List of articles about Scientology
See Talk:List of articles about Scientology AI 6 July 2005 23:27 (UTC)
 * Keep - The reasoning given for deletion is that it is redundant with the Scientology category - however, the category has only a fraction of the articles. Lists and categories serve different purposes - categories are only navigation, not comprehensive listing of related articles. Plus what happens when you have a category of scientologists, category of significant places in scientology and the category scientology - then you have multiple categories and no way of strong linking between them. This page seems much more comprehensive than the category. I think it has value. -Visorstuff 6 July 2005 23:43 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Kappa 7 July 2005 00:09 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Lists can go into greater depth than categories. It may seem redundant, but sometimes you want a quick reference, sometimes you want commentary. Haikupoet 7 July 2005 00:18 (UTC)
 * Keep This is the wrong way to go about encouraging a move toward Categories. If you want to program a Categories system that is functionally equivalent and provide a robot to do the conversion, then we can talk.  Otherwise, let the article be and engage in gentle persuasion to move toward categories. Write a tutorial, work the crowds, but be respectful and polite.  Tom Haws July 8, 2005 02:51 (UTC)
 * Delete Any article that talks about other articles are dangerous meta-creations that should be removed anyway. Unless someone wants to take responsibility for transfering the information to the category system this article should be deleted. -- metta, The Sunborn  7 July 2005 01:56 (UTC)
 * Delete - transfer all the information to a category structure if its useful. An An 7 July 2005 02:10 (UTC)
 * Comment When I first made the comment on the talk page, quite some time ago, I wasn't sure what the categories were for. Visorstuff, you say that these kind of pages are for listings, but (after every article is put in the category) won't the category pages themselves work like listings? There is no info on the page, and the headers can be made with sub-categories. Is there something I'm missing, which can't be done with categories?
 * Either way, I don't think it's a good idea to remove these list pages one by one. If it is decided that they are redundant, it should first be proposed to the entire wiki, and then done to all these list pages. --Dyss 7 July 2005 03:38 (UTC)
 * I think list pages have much more merit and can go into great detail - some are very complex and there is no one category that would be able to cover more than 200 list article pages that are on some list pages - that would be impossible to navigate. In addition, many topics need a one-stop-shop for all the articles about them, and categories are too limited. I know of a couple list pages (I'd rather not draw attention to them because of this issue) that cover more than a dozen categories, but all the categories deal with one subject. This is not a new idea - even britanica has a topical guide index, if you will, that is similar, but has a category system as well as a see also system. All three are useful navigation tools and are much needed in my opinion for navigating such a large wiki. -Visorstuff 8 July 2005 00:15 (UTC)


 * Delete as per Sunborn. JamesBurns 7 July 2005 08:21 (UTC)
 * Delete - Create appropriate subcategories under the main category and add them into those. Subcategories link into the main category, linking them together. Skysmith 7 July 2005 09:13 (UTC)
 * Delete &mdash; There's no value-add to this list article that couldn't covered more properly on the topic pages or with categories. &mdash; RJH 7 July 2005 16:53 (UTC)
 * Either Keep or merge important parts of list with main Scientology articles. A2Kafir 8 July 2005 23:42 (UTC)
 * Delete, this is why we have categories. -- BD2412 talk 15:30, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This to me should be deleted and turned into a category. Rentastrawberry 23:44, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Vote Summary: Keep: 4 Delete: 6

No consensus reached as of 8 July 2004
 * Delete. Categories were ceated for a reason. --Allen3 talk 23:03, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * I will agree that a list article could, potentially, provide something that a category does not. But examining this list, I see nothing it offers that the category doesn't, and it seems that the category is being kept much more up-to-date than the list is.  Barring a really spectacular plan of improvement, I have to vote delete. -- Antaeus Feldspar
 * Merge with Scientology under "See also" section. The number of Scientology articles can confuse those not familiar with the topic, so it would be nice to have them all conveniently listed in one place.  But, as noted above, it is sort of odd to have articles about articles.  I wouldn't worry about the size of the Scientology article because some of the names on the list are already in the "See also" section.  CanadianCaesar 04:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete. Why categories exist. --Calton | Talk 04:33, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete should be covered by categories--nixie 04:40, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
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