Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of artists who have covered The Beatles


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus to delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:15, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

List of artists who have covered The Beatles

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Ridiculously long list (and far from complete: I can think of at least three missing covers just within my own album collection), poorly sourced, trivial. As influential as the Beatles have been, just about everyone is bound to cover them at some point. Almost none of these covers is particularly notable, either, and the article has been unsourced since May 2007. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 21:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You complain that the list is too long, and then complain its missing a few entries. Neither of these are reasons for deletion.   D r e a m Focus  02:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. I agree with the Hammer here--this list is pretty trivial, and while it is in principle not impossible to maintain or clean up, I don't see the point of it. Drmies (talk) 22:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete
 * Comment Actually I'm not sure. Still per Tina Turner. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you still thinking about her legs? Drmies (talk) 01:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Dr., this article has a lot of blue links. The title isn't going to help it's cause at AfD. But if the cover songs of the Beatles by these groups are notable, why wouldn't a list of article for for those songs be notable and worthwhile? WWTD? Should it be renamed List of notable covers of Beattle songs? List of Beattle covers?ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per User:TenPoundHammer. If you think about it, "Yesterday" and "Something" are the most covered songs in history ("Yesterday" has been covered about 4000 times). Would we include all of those?  freshacconci  talk talk  02:46, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * My instinct was to delete. But looking at the article and the blue links, it seems to include a lot of notable covers. So it seems actually pretty reasonable and just in need of a rename? Oh wait my mistake. The blue links are just to the Beattles songs themselves?  I thought they were to the covers. I agree with Delete now. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - The only reason why the links are blue is because they link to the article about the song. (I may be wrong, but cover versions aren't granted their own page.) DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  09:39, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And_I_Love_Her The songs linked to, list who covered them. If any don't, then a cover section should be added to them. Those songs meet the notability requirements for songs.  D r e a m Focus  02:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * But compare a list on any of these songs to, for example, Run, Hero and Hallelujah. All three of these songs have notable cover versions (all topped the British singles chart last autumn/winter), yet none of them have their own articles. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  10:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you mean. If you think they should have their own article, just create one.  Check out WP:MUSIC for that.   D r e a m Focus  10:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Strong delete' -Comne on, it should be more of a "who hasn't covered the Beatles". Absurd article. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 09:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Yeah, yeah, yeah. :) I don't believe it is possible to ever have a complete list (let's not forget the non-English cover versions of the Fab Four's songs). Pastor Theo (talk) 10:39, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:PERNOM Sceptre (talk) 11:22, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. This could pretty much be a copy of a list of musical artists. WP:LC items 3 and 6. Stifle (talk) 11:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to retool this as "List of covers of the Beatles", focusing on independently notable Beatles covers? I don't know how many there are, since music isn't quite my forte. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 05:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, that's what I thought the article was when I saw the blue links. But just linking to the original songs seems awfully worthless. Have other bands recorded notable versions of Beatles tunes? ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No objections to that. Stifle (talk) 13:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Some good references seem to have been added to the article. It seems to me that the topic is highly notable. The nomination is based on the fact that some of them are missing, which is easy enough to fix by editing. The more they have been covered, the more important that is and the more reason for an article.  DGG (talk) 09:08, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources added and request more. A list of notable songs of a notable group sung by notable artists... Gee, isn't wiki all about notability? And then one needs consider the historical impact these folks have had over the past few decades. Its a no-brainer keep per precedent set for such. And if you noticed an omission... then by all means add it and source it. Sheesh.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 10:57, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep notability established, well referenced. Ikip (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment My problem with the article is still that it's just a list of bands with sublists of Beatles songs wikilinked to the Beatles song. I don't see how that's useful. If we want an article about the influence of the beatles music and all the people who have covered them fine. If we want an article about notable versions of Beatles songs fine. But I don't get what purpose this article serves. Bands play the songs of other bands all the time. Unless it's a notable and itneresting version that would warrant an article on the COVER, I don't see why it's helpful to include it in a list. If a song has been covered why not just add it to the article on the song, and I'm sure we already have a list of Beatles songs somewhere right? So this seems redundant. What am I missing? ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Whether or not you believe it to be useful, its not relevant. Some will want to see a list of all their songs covered, perhaps hearing one on the radio and wishing to find out who it is singing it, or just out of curiosity.   D r e a m Focus  02:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Whether or not you believe it to be useful, its not relevant. Some will want to see a list of all their songs covered, perhaps hearing one on the radio and wishing to find out who it is singing it, or just out of curiosity.   D r e a m Focus  02:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a perfectly legitimate article.  D r e a m Focus  02:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. On first blush this seems to be a list that suffers typical deficiencies of lists. It needs a bit better lede, many have no clue who the Beatles were or their cultural impact; this seems relevant. This likely should be a sublist of a larger more universal list on notable bands and notable cover versions in all languages with the lede spelling that out. It would also seem to serve our readers best by reformatting to be a sortable list s one could find all the lists of _____ song. The only issue, IMHO, is if it is maintainable and if the list is tightened to apply to only notable instances then that would seem to ease those concerns. These all seem to be regular editing issues.  -- Banj e  b oi   03:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. This could basically encompass 95% of all musical artists. Per Stifle, fails WP:LC. — sephiroth bcr  ( converse ) 06:48, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:LC is an essay, not a guideline or policy. Anyone at all can make an essay saying anything.  Would you consider the article valid if it was for some other group, which had only a dozen bands covering it?  Is the size the only reason you wish to delete it?   D r e a m Focus  09:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's "only" an argument, just as pretty much all guidelines and most policies are "only" an argument. The argument is that this list is a list of things with two attributes, rather than an illustration of a topic. As for some other group, that would be some other article. A list of Metallica songs covered is probably not a topic, since there are many and few of them matter; a list of Bob Dylan songs made famous by other singers probably is for obvious reasons. Ultimately, it comes down to whether there's a topic here.
 * Ultimately, I don't think it much matters if this article is deleted or not; the potential for an encyclopedia article here exists, but that article needs little or none of this content and probably wouldn't even use this title. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 09:14, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I can see User:Benjiboi's and User:A Man In Black's points-of-view here. I too have a problem with lists, mainly because there's usually so little context to give the reader any indication of why this topic is important enough for an article. As I said earlier, with the 4000+ covers of "Yesterday" this list has the potential to become insane. I'd be perfectly willing to change my delete to keep but there's a great deal of work that needs to be done to make this list useful. Right now, all I can see is a "so what" factor. Who cares that any given artist here covered a Beatles song? They are the biggest selling band of all time and one of the most (the most?) influential as well. It would be odd if there weren't so many covers. What is needed is some indication of why these are important covers. If some band once played a Beatles song in concert, that's not notable. The Rolling Stone's recording "I Wanna Be Your Man" early in their career is notable. Every Beatles song now has its own article. Most of the significant covers are discussed in those individual articles. So in this case, citations would not be needed here. Click on Joe Cocker's "With a Little Help From My Friends" and you'll get the info on why that's an important cover. Likewise, the Stone's "I Wanna Be Your Man", Sinatra's "Something" and so on. If this article is kept, then the work that needs to be done is to whittle this down to the important songs with info about that particular cover in the individual song article. The rest should be removed simply because it's is just not important that Band A covered "Yesterday" live once and Band B recorded "Yesterday" on a long-out-of-print 60s album. If this list is to be useful (and that's what we're trying to do here, present useful information, aren't we?), then we need to do the work to make it useful and not just a list of songs without any context. Personally, I'd prefer to see an actual article in text format discussing the key covers. Scrolling through the list, I found it to be mildly fascinating, but in many cases, all I could say was "so what". That Oasis covers many Beatle songs live is important because of their obsession with The Beatles and the Oasis article covers that in detail. But some of the other examples are really just trivial.  freshacconci  talk talk  11:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge with List of martial artists who have covered The Beatles. Failing that, I suggest a reluctant keep, with the admonition that the list be truncated to include only those performers whose covers have been good/notable enough to garner significant third-party coverage -- if, say, a good cover by a then-obscure performer the launched their career. I don't know the Beatles of these artists well enough to know whether such performers/performances exist; happy to leave it to the tuneheads to figure it out. --EEMIV (talk) 13:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep no-brainer for notability, and definable. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:47, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.