Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of assets owned by McDonald's


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to McDonalds. Spartaz Humbug! 04:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

List of assets owned by McDonald's

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A non-notable trivial piece of information that if it has any place at all, should be in the main McDonalds article. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  16:05, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:HOAX. No evidence that McDonald's owns (or has owned) any of these companies. Uncle Dick (talk) 17:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Addendum: I've removed the false businesses leaving only verifiable material. Still endorse deletion based on WP:INDISCRIMINATE. This info might be appropriate for the McDonald's article, if anywhere. Uncle Dick (talk) 23:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, trivial and of dubious veracity. Some of those (notably, the sourced ones) are correct, others (particularly Krispy Kreme) seem to be speculation at best. No information worth merging that I can discern. ~ mazca  talk 17:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The problems with the egregiously wrong and unsourced entries has been solved - I'm still not convinced this warrants a separate article, though. I'd suggest we redirect (with history intact) to McDonalds and work any mergeable information into that article - a list with seven or eight entries and no further commentary is hardly a useful article taken independently. ~ mazca  talk 08:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:40, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete In today's world big corporations buy and sell smaller ones all the time. This list will be constantly changing. I also think it's too much like a directory for WP.Steve Dufour (talk) 20:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sources recently added to the article. It'd also be perfectly fine to merge this into McDonald's itself. Jclemens (talk) 21:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't object to that, but I don't really think McDonalds Corp. is notable for owning other companies. Steve Dufour (talk) 22:55, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is an example of WP:SYNTH. It is true that the individual facts are cited in many reliable sources, but the sources do not suggest that the whole list of assets is notable. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 23:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Notable, possibly not. But original synthesis, certainly not.  I know because the source that I added to McDonald's only a few hours ago discusses these very acquisitions and sales of other companies by McDonald's Corporation.  It does so in the context of an overall article on the corporation, of course.  It also does so poviding more than a raw list like the one at hand.  As I noted at Talk:McDonald's, the article requires expansion.  &#9786; Uncle G (talk) 00:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wanted to say synthesis (which can mean a lot of things), but just stuck WP:SYNTH in there as a convenient WP:WOTTA. I really meant that this is an indiscriminate list; how can we claim to know all of McDonald's assets, without further sourcing? -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:07, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Haven't you just made another linking error? Surely you mean incomplete, rather than indiscriminate?  I agree that without sourcing it's not possible to know whether what has hit the business news reports is a full list.  As I said, I think that the expansion upon this belongs in McDonald's, as a discussion of acquisitions and sales with some surrounding historical context as to why some specific transactions are marked, not as a standalone list.  (Such sourcing can be had in the source that I mentioned, for starters.)  If you look at some of the lists linked-to by lists of corporate assets you'll see several others that have (apparently) been merged with the relevant company articles.  I only added the citations to show that this wasn't an outright hoax as claimed.  &#9786;  Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, indiscriminate is indiscriminate, regardless of the present state of the article. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 19:21, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Indiscriminacy is a lack of discrimination, not a lack of knowing all of a list. "Assets (once) owned by McDonald's" is highly discriminate.  It's finite, specific, and (as noted) not even something that only Wikipedians are interested in enough to write up.  Not knowing whether this is all of McDonald's assets is a matter of completeness, not discrimination.  Uncle G (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * But what counts as an asset? Is a napkin on their counter an asset? Sorry this was kind of an extreme example, but what about individual buildings? Mom and pop shops that got bought? -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 20:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * From what was written at Talk:Lists of corporate assets back in 2003, and the development of some of the more substantial articles in this family, such as List of assets owned by Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., a hierarchy of corporate ownership was what was intended. You do realize that there's a whole family of articles that you can (legitimately, I agree) aim this question at? Content noticeboard?  Village Pump? Uncle G (talk) 00:09, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Multinational corporations often have various assets. Merge the info if it's important. Carrite (talk) 02:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete This might be notable in the context of the McDonald's page itself, but not as a separate list. HubcapD (talk) 22:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep navigation lists do not have to be notable, it is just a (outdated) tool to navigate WP. It could have been a category as well. It is well sourced and there is no reason to delete it otherwise, the subject of the list is notable, it can be merged into the main article of McD. Wikid as&#169; 13:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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