Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of assets owned by the Trump Organization


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to List of things named after Donald Trump. With some caveats: There's not consensus to just dump stuff from one list into the other, or to redirect, but rather consensus is to create one list of all things Trump (with a name still to be worked out) such that it is clear what belongs to Trump or his organization, and what is just named after him. That's because it's clear from most "keep" opinions that many editors consider this a relevant distinction that should not be omitted.  Sandstein  08:15, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

List of assets owned by the Trump Organization

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Useless list; all contents and more is already on List of things named after Donald Trump. — JFG talk 23:10, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. There are several things included in this article that are not included in the other, such as Central Park Carousel and Mar-a-Lago. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:33, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 06:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 06:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There is general consensus to keep or merge, so I am re-listing for other editors to partake and help reach a solution. st170e talk 01:11, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to either List of things named after Donald Trump or The Trump Organisation as most entries on this stand-alone list are already mentioned on either of these articles. Ajf773 (talk) 06:44, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep It needs sourcing and explanations, but it serves an encyclopedic purpose that differs from the List of things named after Donald Trump. Despite the fact that as a shameless publicity whore, Mr. Trump has a bad habit of assigning his name to things he and his company own, there are many properties that have the Trump name on them that aren't owned by Trump and many properties owned by Trump that don't have his name on it. Alansohn (talk) 10:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep As the (uump gh) President-Elect of the United States, Trump's conflicts of interest are important. Matchups 11:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep owned by the Trump Organization is not the same as named after Donald Trump, one can be in the former but not the latter category and vice versa. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:21, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as different from things named after Trump. 04:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC)K.e.coffman (talk)
 * Keep Something being named or sponsored by Trump is not owned by him/his organization. SportsMedGuy (talk) 17:13, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Trump Organisation and add therein where needed and where it would not be redundant. No reason for stand alone list separate from that article. Kierzek (talk) 19:31, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge as above. The number of assets listed is not sufficient to merit an article in and of itself, but the contents thereof are still notable. The list is not the same as a list of things named after Donald Trump, but it does fall under the umbrella of the Trump Organization. --Delta1989 (talk) (contributions) 21:13, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to one of the other articles per prior comments above. --FeralOink (talk) 03:34, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170e talk 01:11, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to Trump Organization, really duplicate information. That article could use a dose of neutrality, for instance on the Trump Winery, it says: "Although the vineyard is 1,300 acres, only 200 are under cultivation ("Acres under vine")."  Wow.  I'm sure if people knew that 1,100 acres of potential wine cultivation was sitting idle they wouldn't have voted for him.  Thoughtmonkey (talk) 11:52, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep/Merge as above but into a consolidated list article as List of things named after Donald Trump, which can be broken up into assets specifically owned by Trump Org. versus those in which he has shares versus those to which he licenses his name or brand(s). This listing page should also now be expanded to include organizations owned separately by any of his children to whom he is now entrusting his company and family whom he is putting in positions of political power. Again, the scope of such a list is now beyond that of documenting the Trump Organization – it is to carefully have all of the President-Elect's known financial and nominal interests listed. SamuelRiv (talk) 05:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * A noble endeavour, but is this the job of Wikipedia? Regardless, we don't need this list in three different places (Trump Org, Things named after Trump and this page). — JFG talk 07:37, 16 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Merge to The Trump Organization. No need to list assets several times.--Polmandc (talk) 00:25, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep/Merge and Redirect explicitly:  The  Trump Organization page is very long and detailed. The List of things named after Donald Trump could contain many things that aren't owned by him.  It is not particularly useful or relevant to someone looking for a list of Trump's holdings.  I was directed to this page from the Donald Trump talk page Talk:Donald Trump, where I asked if there was a Wikipedia page that answered my question: I got some very helpful  responses  indicating why it's a challenge to identify everything and give a good answer.  This page WOULD be what I was looking for, if you keep it, and if it is improved. I appreciate the comments of SamuelRiv above on reorganizing.  If you decide not to keep it, then I would recommend some very specific redirection to the Trump Organization and possibly to  List of things named after Donald Trump (I found it a "Trump oooh-shiny" page and not very useful.) I don't suppose you'd consider redirecting List of things named after Donald Trump to this page instead?  Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)


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