Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of association football matches played at Tehelné pole


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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 06:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

List of association football matches played at Tehelné pole

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Fails WP:NOTSTATS and WP:LISTN. Enough with the WP:CRUFT. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 02:58, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. There's no reason for this article to exist. It's not sourced and covers a topic that's not really encyclopedic. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The Stadium Australia one might be notable since it's not traditionally used as a football arena. The other ones are clearly WP:NOTSTATS and poorly sourced to boot. SportingFlyer  T · C  04:12, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all as listcruft. GiantSnowman 16:58, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have been working on the article entire day and intend to add more data within next few days. I hope it does not harm anyone to have such an article here and for many fans, perhaps even commentators, it might serve as an very useful overview with added statistical value. Especially in the future. Penepi 23:35, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all. We are not a directory of every single match played at a particular venue. Ajf773 (talk) 02:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Who 'we'? Does the article hurt you? Do you need to think about it every day and cannot sleep because of it? But okay, I do understand there needs to be some rules. But at least the Tehelné pole article is not a directory of every single match. It also contains statistical data, and as I stated above I will add more of them. I am sure some users will definitely find the article useful. Penepi 11:53, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "We" stands for the Wikipedia community. As much as I appreciate your WP:GOODFAITH contributions, the list is still pure WP:FANCRUFT and WP:NOTSTATS only designed to amplify unimportant information. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 13:26, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "Unimportant information" is a merely subjective opinion, in the first place. Then also why don't you delete, for instance, "2019–20 ŠK Slovan Bratislava season" article, or basically all articles related to specific season of a sports club? Those, too, are important "only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question". I believe the article does not offend anyone, and besides spending quite some time on it, it will have an added value in the future when looking at historic statistics, which cannot be found anywhere else now. Penepi 19:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Seasons for football clubs like Slovan Bratislava are notable because they pass WP:NSEASONS. This list is different because it can't really be considered notable and is purely just WP:LISTCRUFT. Every match in the list is already compiled in more notable articles like the season articles, for example. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 03:55, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all - listcruft and not stats Spiderone  00:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If (well, when) these get deleted, if the closer could please move the Stadium Australia table to my userspace, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! SportingFlyer  T · C  20:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why you think the Stadium Australia list could be considered notable. Many multi-purpose or traditional non-football stadiums hold matches from time to time, so I don't see what makes Stadium Australia so special in particular. Especially considering in Australia, many stadiums that hold Aussie rules, cricket, and rugby matches also hold association football matches and the sport is fairly popular in Australia. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 21:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Stadium Australia only holds soccer matches occasionally, and when it does, the soccer matches it holds tend to be major, such as the Olympic Games finals, the Asian Cup finals, or major World Cup qualification matches such as the inter-continental playoffs. It's especially noteworthy considering the large number of smaller rectangular stadiums in the Sydney area also capable of hosting football matches, one of which was functionally soccer-specific until its recent demolition. I don't understand why you would consider this cruft, but cruft is typically a different word for WP:IDONTLIKEIT. It needs a single source (a secondary list of games) and a bit of prose to pass WP:NLIST. I've only done a simple source search but can look through some of my Aussie soccer sources soon. SportingFlyer  T · C  22:21, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Stadium Australia is the 2nd largest stadium in the country and the largest in Sydney; double that of the 2nd largest in the city: the Sydney Cricket Ground. Of course it would be used for large events like the Olympics or major Australia national team matches. Also, how can you equate CRUFT to IDONTLIKEIT? IDONTLIKEIT is for baseless arguments. CRUFT is used to stop the encyclopedia from having non-notable circlejerk articles that are of arbitrary importance, and are at best, only deserve a small section in a much grander topic. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 01:46, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Cruft is in the eye of the beholder, similar to IDONTLIKEIT. I can't really argue for or against CRUFT in the same way I can't argue against IDONTLIKEIT, as they're not objective. The objective argument I can make: The articles you nominated here violate WP:NOT. Of those three, one, the Stadium Australia article, can be salvaged with a bit of research. You yourself admit the matches there would be of general importance, and I've just gone ahead and converted the list of important soccer matches staged at the stadium from list format into prose at the Stadium Australia article - it would likely be a valid fork, and the table would be appropriate within that fork. The other two cannot be salvaged, as they are stadiums which host football matches first and foremost, and listing every football match there would get us into a database/directory area. SportingFlyer  T · C  03:54, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The matches are of general importance because they are notable sporting events and they are already listed on club season articles, national teams results lists and international competition articles, not because they were played at a specific stadium. Just because a football match is played at a multipurpose or non-football stadium, doesn't make the match any more important. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 14:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


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