Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of attendees to King Hussein funeral


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Death and state funeral of King Hussein. Consensus is to keep as part of Hussein_of_Jordan or convert the material into an article on the funeral of King Hussein. However, we already have Death and state funeral of King Hussein, so the contents should be merged there.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  13:18, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

List of attendees to King Hussein funeral

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Exhaustive lists of state funeral attendees tend to fall under WP:NOONECARES, although if forced to point to an actual policy to argue for deletion, I'd go with WP:NOTSTATS. There may be scope for expansion at Hussein_of_Jordan (perhaps on the Reagan model), but this does strike me as overkill. - Biruitorul Talk 18:50, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Biruitorul. Seems hard to justify this under WP:NOTSTATS when funerals of far greater notability only give a brief summary of worthy mourners, eg: Princess Diana. Eddie.willers (talk) 22:37, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. I have as yet formed no opinion about the disposition of this article, but must say that I see no foundation to the claim that a Jordanian king's funeral is any less notable than that of a British princess. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:13, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That slightly confuses the issue. We have a bunch of articles on state funerals, but aside from List of dignitaries at the state funeral of John F. Kennedy (which I'm not sure we need), no standalone list of dignitaries, merely a summary of attendees within the funeral articles. It's possible we should have a Death and state funeral of Hussein of Jordan. It's more difficult to argue for a list like this one. - Biruitorul Talk 20:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I see your points, thanks. Asrefaei (talk) 06:07, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your input on this however let me clear few things; considering this article under WP:NOONECARES and WP:NOTSTATS is maybe valid to you but trust me there is a history need for it due to the size and importance of the funeral. The funeral was in size similar (perhaps greater) to Mahatma Ghandi, Yitzhak Rabin, Lady Diana. It was the gathering of enemies (officials from Israel, Syria, Palestine, USA, Iraq, Kuwait...etc). It is enough to state that four American presidents attended the funeral. There was so much confusion and lack of information on who attended the funeral on the internet and press on the past therefore I decided to gather the information from every possible source including national news agencies on the day of the funeral to list this for the record of history.I will indeed support this with resources. By the way, Princess Diana is a great person, I like her however there is no way to compare the funeral of King Hussein and Lady Diana in terms of political importance and history eras. You should read more history books on the subject....
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:52, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep or change to Funeral of King Hussein As for notability, I think it is certainly as notable (arguably more) on the world stage as the Funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales. The references cited point to these people being present, but should be added inline to each name that is listed. The article may also be helped by expanding it to be about the funeral itself, (perhaps renaming it Funeral of King Hussein) along with a list of notable attendees, rather than set up just as a list. That all of these people attended, along with 800,00 others is notable as is that it brought together enemies and players from all sides of the political and cultural spectrum. I found lots of information at google books that support what user Asrefaei stated above, including these: "King Hussein's funeral brought together enemies, including the leader of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Nayef Hawatmeh, who approached the Israeli President Ezer Weizman, praised him as a man of peace and shook his hand... Syrian President Hafaz Al Assad and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, harsh enemies, did not meet personally during the funeral, but it was the very first time that they came together in the same place." -Prehistoric Europe, Theory and Practice, ed. by Andrew Jones, and "Present at King Hussein's funeral were more than 40 heads of state from around the world, including all the big names; Clinton, Yeltsin et al. Indeed the roll-call surpassed even that for the funeral of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin following his assassination in 1995, both in terms of numbers and importance." -Jordan Handbook, by Ivan Manheim --MLKLewis (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks to all, I see your valid points, I believe I should remake/rename this article to be of the funeral itself..I will firstly finish the list as it takes a real time, I will support it with resources and finally write the article. Thanks again for your support....Please help editing whatever you think is required to be edited--Asrefaei (talk)


 * Keep per MLKLewis. The nom smacks of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Bearian (talk) 21:52, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sufficient RS coverage -- which also shows that someone cares, though that is besides the point.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:48, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge Cut out the pictures, change in a nice list and it will fit in the article of King Hussein. Night of the Big Wind  talk  03:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
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