Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of automobiles considered the worst


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kagundu  Talk To Me  06:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

List of automobiles considered the worst
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A coatrack collection of hate against various cars. All of this repeats opinion - which is what sells papers that include car reviews. Darn near any car has had some negative press. It is an indiscriminate collection of quotes with no objective criteria for inclusion. Legacypac (talk) 19:16, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. SportingFlyer (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 19:22, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 19:22, 22 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep as per established principal. Yes, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS but the comparable List of films considered the worst has been previously nominated, discussed, and kept nine times, which pretty comprehensively establishes this as an encyclopedic topic. As for the nomination rationale, I see no hate in the article (sometimes just the opposite, e.g. "the Trabant was regarded with derisive affection"), and as an oft-published subject in respectable news and broadcasting media there are plenty of reliable refs to support content. Dorsetonian (talk) 19:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, I note the nominator also moved List of music considered the worst to List of music considered notable for negative reception with the rationale "Much more accurate". I agree entirely with that and suggest that if this article is kept, a similar move is made. Dorsetonian (talk) 19:39, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree, but I believe it already was. Drewmutt ( ^ᴥ^ ) talk


 * Keep as per established principal (as per above) and there is a precedent with the worst films page. There are lots of interest in the worst cars... there are a number of books published on the topic, which would point to its notability, including "World's Worst Cars" "Automotive Atrocities! The Cars We Love to Hate" Eric Peters, "Lemons: The World's Worst Cars: Timothy Jacobs", "The Worst Cars Ever Sold", by Giles Chapman, not to mention countless articles web pages on the topic, and lists of worst cars including Time Magazine's "50 Worst Cars of All Time". Articles is well referenced, with lots of RS.Deathlibrarian (talk) 01:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a notable subject that has been covered extensively in the media throughout the years. I believe it is of enough interest to belong in an encyclopedia. In fact, I think this subject has received more mainstream media coverage than some of the other "worst ever" articles covered here such as video games and music,. The article does need work, I have been trying to work on it and improve it when I have time, but I think the basics of it are good. The selection of cars is good, each one is backed up with multiple sources, doesn't contain original research and is generally following the criteria or listing cars that were so bad they brought consequence to the manufacturer and became famous specifically for their defects, and each entry does a good job explaining it. It doesn't have entries such as listing the NS Chrysler minivans just because they have lots of problems with transmission failure and the strut towers rusting out. Needs help but is worthy of being here. Reattacollector (talk) 03:46, 2 March 2018 (UTC)


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