Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of autumn flowers


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The result was   delete. The valid arguments for the removal of this article are found to fall under WP:IINFO. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 17:49, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

List of autumn flowers

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Topic too vuage (autumn in northern Canada or autumn in the Australian outback) and likely to be too large for a list (1000s upon 1000s of plants), uncited --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 16:39, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep The topic is notable per WP:LISTN as gardeners have documented such varieties to assist them in ensuring a supply of blooms throughout the year. See Flora historica, for example.  The potential size of the list is unimportant per WP:NOTPAPER — note that the more general list of plants is a blue link. Andrew (talk) 23:40, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete This list needs to be much more specific if it's going to be of any use to gardeners, or to Wikipedia. The link that Andrew gives above shows one possible article, List of flowers that bloom in autumn in the United Kingdom. It's likely that most flowers bloom in Autumn somewhere in the world, even if it's in a nursery or greenhouse where flowers are artificially prompted to bloom at nearly all times. Does this list include trees, perennials, annuals, shrubs, subshrubs, grasses, ferns, and conifers? This list is far too indiscriminate to ever be meaningful or helpful. First Light (talk) 22:00, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete The subject is too general to be addressed meaningfully. Lists of plants by flowering time with a regional focus (e.g. United Kingdom, or Eastern US) might work, but even then there is significant variation by latitude and elevation in flowering times. The seasonal focus is also problematic. When does autumn start? After the autumnal equinox? At the beginning of September (in the Northern Hemisphere), as defined in the parent category for this list, Category:Flowering dates? Does autumn start at the same time in both Anchorage and Miami? There's been some previous discussion about deleting related lists at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants/Archive60. Wikipedia is not very well suited to handling the variables that affect bloom dates. A more appropriate place to develop this content is [Wikiversity's Bloom Clock page]. Plantdrew (talk) 16:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per Plantdrew as so general as to be meaningless - also, unsourced, and difficult to source, list. Bearian (talk) 20:55, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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