Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of awards and nominations received by Vice Ganda


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Vice Ganda. The consensus seems to be to selectively merge material from here to Vice Ganda. Exactly which parts deserve merging is up to the normal editorial discretion of whoever does the merge. Leave a redirect behind. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:37, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Vice Ganda

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

See Articles for deletion/List of awards and nominations received by Dennis Trillo and Articles for deletion/List of awards and nominations received by Jennylyn Mercado for similar discussions (my deletion rationale is exactly the same as the other two). No prejudice against against a selective merge to Vice Ganda (with sources of course), but honestly this list probably needs to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:30, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge - To his main article. Neither page is terribly lengthy and the addition of the awards to the main page wouldn't make the article unusually long. I can't see any major reason why the awards should have their own page. Perhaps if it was some actor who was specifically known for their awards and books were written about how many oscars they had gotten and their speeches and it was such a meme that it deserved its own page, but that's not the case here. The fact alone that he has received awards is not enough reason to have a page separate from the own main article. Bali88 (talk) 03:58, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi! I would have to argue about deleting the said page because I believe that the page should be maintained.

Quotes from: Articles for deletion/List of awards and nominations received by Dennis Trillo page
 * "Totally unsourced fancruft-article listing awards and nominations allegedly received by a Filipino celebrity." <-- The article that I created is sourced.
 * "... except perhaps when the person is really famous...more of these are nomin ation than wins, and unless the award is of great importance, nominations are not necessarily even proper article content." <--Vice Ganda's nomination: 8, wins: 23. "Phenomenal Box-Office Winner at the GMMSF Box-Office Entertainment Awards for three consecutive years + fully sourced.

Also, sooner or later, the list will surely be longer.001Jrm (talk) 04:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you opposed to putting this content on the main biography? Is there a specific reason why you created a separate page just for the awards? I think that's the major thing...It's very unlikely that someone would do a google search just looking for the awards of this person as opposed to looking for a full biography of this person. Do you have any reasons why a merge onto the main article page would be a bad idea? If they get more awards in the future and their awards become a *thing*, the page could always be created again. :-) Bali88 (talk) 05:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh no, I'm not opposed to it. I just think that putting the awards section on a separate page is a good idea to make it look more organized. Therefore, I created a new page plus I added more info about the award-giving bodies with sources. I am just disappointed that after a long time of organizing the info, the page could be deleted. You do know that editing alone takes time. If I do not comment on this, then my work and effort would go to waste. I am just defending my view on this matter, that's all (which is why there's this page, right?). If you still think that the page should be deleted/merged, then I don't have a choice but to surrender. I already reverted my edit and re-added the awards section on the main page (Vice Ganda), and put the awards list to my sandbox as well. I just don't know when will be the *right time* for his awards to become a *thing*. lol XD 001Jrm (talk) 06:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't misunderstand my words, I understand putting a ton of time into something and then someone comes along and deletes it! What I was trying to do (although perhaps I didn't explain this well enough) is help you argue your case. You need to have an argument as to why keeping the page instead of merging would be the best choice. We're discussing the topic here and if you think it should be kept you can and should argue your viewpoint as much as you want. I just wanted you to focus on that aspect in your argument as I think that will be more persuasive to other editors and the closing admin. Most afd's are focused on why the topic is notable enough to be on wikipedia, I think this is a similar, but slightly different situation since the argument should be focused on why it should be on a page separate from the main article. Are the awards of this specific person something that is notable over the awards over other people? Are they discussed more? Are there too many to have on the main page? Personally, I'm not sure that it fits these criteria, but I'm trying to point out the criteria that you need to tackle while arguing your case for the AFD. Also, don't see this as a defeat if it does get deleted. I think the work you put into this will get far more views on the main page anyway. Let me know if you need any help :-) Bali88 (talk) 17:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * haha XD Topics like this are making our words seem like we're mad. I didn't misunderstand your words after seeing the smiley face at the end of your paragraph, that's why I put a XD emoticon at the end of mine as well. Anyways, just like what I said earlier, I am just disappointed with the nomination. However, if the team still believes that it should be deleted, I respect their decision. In the first place, I created an independent page for the awards because I think it will be more organized that way. Vice Ganda is really popular right now. See |The prime of Vice Ganda His films are box-office hits, and he is a trendsetter in the Philippines (eg. popularizes dances...). One way to prove his popularity is through awards, thus I created the page. (eg. ASAP Pop Viewers Awards: nominated 3 times for the "Twittizen" category since 2011, and won in 2013; 3-consecutive time "Phenomenal Star"(major award) winner at the GMMSF Box-Office Entertainment Awards since 2012 + a special award in 2011; consistent recipient of awards and nominations for commedianne/show host of the year category, etc.) I know the page is not fully sourced, but I also need time to rest and do some other things. :)
 * Again, I respect any decision. 001Jrm (talk) 18:56, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Also, I know the point of writing a page on wikipedia isn't to get a ton of hits, but if I go to the trouble of creating an article or working on an article I want people to read it! Just keep in mind that if the page does get deleted, your work will get more views there anyway. :-) Bali88 (talk) 22:06, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your time! See you around! ^^ 001Jrm (talk) 00:30, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge/Redirect 4 of those awards don't have their own page and should be removed per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, leaving only 3 tables. Near not enough for it's own page, the main article should just have a section for this. LADY LOTUS • TALK 18:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think you'll need a redirect, but I accept your decision. :) 001Jrm (talk) 00:30, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: The redirect is generally required after a merge to preserve attribution of the contributions to the merged content, for GPL compliance. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 02:37, 26 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - All non notable awards from a non notable person!. →Davey 2010→  →Talk to me!→  03:28, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I have to argue that there are also notable awards (including, but not limited to, GMMSF Box-Office Entertainment Awards and PMPC Star Awards for TV) in the list. Also, the person himself, Vice Ganda, is a notable person (trendsetter; lead of multiple box-office films in the Philippines; Philippine's most popular comedian: ; Top Philippine influential person on Twitter: and so on). I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm actually a little bit offended by the way you say your sentence. (Using all and an exclamation point afterwards). Try to at least look at some of the awards and/or the person before you generalize things. Hopefully, I would not sound rude by my way of saying it because it's not my intention to be one in the first place. Thank you. :) 001Jrm (talk) 03:59, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * IMHO most of the awards are not notable, I'm not sure how I can offend anyone by my sentence structure ? .. Thats baffled me, .... Anyway If I've really offended you then I apologize sincerely :) →Davey 2010→  →Talk to me!→  04:12, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I really appreciate your sincerity and it's probably how I interpreted your comment that I was offended in the first place. Anyway, I respect your decision (er...or opinion?) in this matter and I accept my mistake for adding some non-notable awards (that I've copied from the main page) into the article. See you around! ^^ 001Jrm (talk) 04:35, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah now I feel bad as I wasn't aware you created it, Well I apologize If I had offended you and Good luck on future article creations. →Davey 2010→  →Talk to me!→  23:52, 28 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 10:37, 30 May 2014 (UTC)




 * Merge selectively to Vice Ganda. NorthAmerica1000 02:25, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.