Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bands from Canada


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No consensus &mdash; Caknuck 07:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

List of bands from Canada

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Redundant with Category:Canadian musical groups. Since the page has an internal note that says it is only for bands that already have articles, it appears to have no function that the category and its subcategories do not already serve. Chubbles 02:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete This is sheer redundancy. Calgary 03:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Calgary. GreenJoe 03:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - It has several functions that categories do not serve: Lists work with the "related changes" command, categories don't.  Therefore, using "related changes", this list is highly useful for patrolling articles on Canadian bands, to spot vandalism, etc.  Lists are easier to build and maintain (centralized location), and it is a lot faster to build a comprehensive list than a comprehensive category.  Lists are easier to view - once downloaded, paging is server independent and therefore instantaneous. Changes to lists can be tracked, changes to categories cannot (categories don't have histories, only pages do), so if a link disappears, we can spot it (bt on categories, there's no easy way to spot missing links).  As articles, lists can be linked to from ''See also sections, categories generally aren't (style violation).  The Transhumanist 03:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note that Category:Canadian musical groups does not have a listing in the way that List of bands from Canada does—the articles are diffused into a large number of subcategories. And this kind of list provides functions to editors that categories are unable to provide, not least of which is the "related changes" tool. Granted, this list would be more valuable to readers (as opposed to editors) if it were annotated; see Talk:List of bands from Canada for an example of what this might become. Keep please. --Paul Erik 05:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Categories can contain thousands of articles. Think about this list in 2010 at least. Don't forget that some editors enjoy adding red links to articles like this one. It is everything but unmaintainable. --  GarbageCollection   - !Collect 05:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Agree a Category:Candadian Bands will serve the purpose much better Corpx 06:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You mean Category:Canadian musical groups. And if you don't see why it doesn't serve the same purpose as the list, use the category to find the band Farm Fresh in no more than three clicks. Let me know how you make out. Bearcat 07:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I personally think that the more organized they are, the better it is. Corpx 06:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. I don't understand why lists are suddenly deletable. This is NOT the same content as any single category. Deleting this would remove a valuable alternate method for looking up this information. older ≠ wiser 01:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's ironic that the main advantage lists have over categories (allowing users to add redlinks and help new articles to be created) is being prevented by editors of this list, who are removing any redlinks added. Delete it as redundant to the categories and against the whole idea of lists. Crazysuit 04:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Lists are not redundant with categories. They serve different purposes, and Wikipedia policy has always explicitly spelled out that a list is not deleted just because a category also exists — see Categories, lists, and series boxes, which explicitly states that lists and categories should be used in synergy, not in exclusion to each other. The category, further, is not comprehensive in the same way as the list is; Category:Canadian musical groups contains only subcategories, not individual articles, and is thus navigable only if you already know what subcategories an article is in. If you only know the band's name, the category is useless as a navigation system. (And no, this is not a justification for eliminating subcategories.) The deletion rationale is thus invalid; keep. Bearcat 07:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lists supplement categories, and both are valuable tools.  SriMesh |  talk  02:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, not redundant with categories because it provides an overall index, although I'd much rather see some annotation. Kappa 09:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep for the reasons that Bearcat stated. The article policy of only including bands with wikipedia articles should be discussed, but that issue is not justification for deletion.TheDarknessVisible 18:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Essentially, that's a way to ensure that the list only contains genuinely notable bands, so we don't end up with a list to which every 14-year-old punk rocker in Canada feels entitled to add his own non-recording garage band. Bearcat 06:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.