Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bands whose members are all deceased


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 01:48, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

List of bands whose members are all deceased

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Notability of the subject is not established; this is listcruft. KurtRaschke (talk) 16:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Rather unusually, I was in the process of creating this page, but it was created before I saved it. This is my rationale: "No reason is given as to why this subject is notable. Why not "List of films where all cast members are deceased" or "List of congress' where all members are deceased"? It may be unusual right now for all members of a band to be deceased, but in the future it will be much more commonplace (not WP:CRYSTAL, everyone dies, so this list will just grow). As well, this list also seems to be ill-defined and just applies to the rock-era, but forgets things like ensembles (which are basically bands and date back to the classical era), or even Jazz bands and Big bands." -- Scorpion 0422  16:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nominator, this is just plain trivial pure and simple. JBsupreme (talk) 16:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Though some of the comments above (*cough* Scorpion0422) smell of WP:WAX, this article still fails WP:LISTCRUFT and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Memento mori - everyone will die right? This list could get a little big, to say the least. Bsimmons 666  (talk) Friend? 16:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The fact only two bands were listed in the death section and the editor had to go onto "almost dead" which completly defeats the reason for the list shows its not well planned.BritishWatcher (talk) 16:53, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, and Fast. I'm actually sniggering as I look at the title. It looks like it came straight out of the list of really really really stupid article ideas. TopGearFreak   Talk  17:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as pure listcruft; sounds kind of like that List of African-American presidents a while back. MuZemike  ( talk ) 17:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So it's a redirect now? ;)  D ENNIS B ROWN  (T) (C) 22:20, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:LC  abf  /talk to me/  18:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm a proponent of lists, but this is trivial even in my eyes. (PS 'whose' is grammatically incorrect) - Mgm|(talk) 20:03, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Everyone dies, so this list will just keep getting bigger. Plus, "band" is a vague word. Acebulf (talk) 21:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. A band that is still actively performing despite all its members being dead -- now THAT would be notable. Otherwise this is too NN a topic for a list, plus it's impossible to maintain because it would be necessary to investigate cases where all the original members are dead, but continuation groups have been established ... doesn't work. Also, as noted above, everyone dies, therefore this list could grow to ridiculous lengths as time goes on. 23skidoo (talk) 00:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Actually, record companies assert ownership of the names of bands and put up groups of musicians to "be" numerous famous rock bands, regardless of whether anyone is still living who was in the band when it originally became famous. In the concert band and big band world, it is common for "recreated" bands of Glenn Miller or John Phillip Sousa to play the charts of the famous bands of a bygone era. Ditto for some of the famous Motown bands. It is not clear that was the intent of the article creators. Edison (talk) 02:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per 23skidoo. A good laugh, though. Huon (talk) 01:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Since it seems to be an indiscriminate list of musical groups the authors like, mainly rock bands, but including the The Mills Brothers, who were a pre-rock vocal quartet, and never a "band." Then look at all the famous concert bands, like John Phillip Sousa's Band, all of whose members are likely deceased (apologies if any live 76 years after Sousa's death). Clearly there were countless famous 19th century and earlier bands all of whose members are deceased. How about the early 20th century jazz bands? Buddy Bolden's band broke up in 1907 when he went mad. King Oliver's band shut down well before his death in 1938. Any alums still living? How about the Big Bands. Any Fletcher Henderson alums around who were in his band up to its disbanding in 1939? Or are there living veterans of the Glenn Miller band before his 1944 disappearance? Then the list includes, amazingly enough,  rock bands some of whose members are identified as still living. Edison (talk) 02:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 08:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 08:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per 23skidoo. This list is far too indiscriminate.  Everyone dies one day, unless you're a vampire.  coccyx bloccyx  (toccyx)  20:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


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