Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of biker films


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Seraphimblade Talk to me Please review me! 10:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

List of biker films

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Delete - Wikipedia is not a repository of loosely-associated topics. That a film has an biker in it is nowhere near sufficient to justify this article. Otto4711 02:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film and TV-related deletions.   -- SkierRMH 21:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.   -- SkierRMH 21:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Yes, certainly adding a film just for having a biker in it would be a problem, but there are such things as biker movies just as there are movies about auto racing. Take a look at this. I think that's more than enough to establish that the genre is generally accepted.  This is not to say some clean-up wouldn't be worthwhile or conversion to a category, but your nomination is unsound.  FrozenPurpleCube 04:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If you want to take it upon yourself to overhaul this article so that it is not a list of any movie that has someone in it who rides a motorcycle, go right ahead. Otto4711 07:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * This is far from a list of "any movie that has someone in it who rides a motorcycle" and the introduction makes that clear. The biker subculture is a long-lived and important one that has spawned many depictions in fiction. A "biker" is not "anyone who rides a motorcycle." Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 00:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete This is what categories are for. Mark the movies as Movie with bikers category or something. --Dacium 04:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This is not "loosely-associated". The biker film genre is a well-recognized though small genre. Admittedly, it would be nice to see the article expanded with more info on the genre in general (which I was hoping to get around to myself, though I've been quite busy), but "needs expansion" isn't a good enough reason to delete by itself either. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 05:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete The "biker movie" is certainly a genre that deserves an article, but this isn't it. Just because at least one biker appears as a significant plot element in a film doesn't make it a biker movie. Several of the films listed are not biker movies. Probably better to delete this and create a new article about the actual "biker movie" genre. And include Hells Angels on Wheels in it! Croxley 06:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete there is no biker film article; maybe there should be one, but until then, I don't see the relevance of having a list. JuJube 06:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The following reccopmendations can happen independantly of each other. Overall, Increase inclusion bar to movies about bikers, while adding externaly sourved and verifiable content and context to the article... then (1) - write an externally sourced, verifiable, fact-checked Biker film (genre) article or similar. (2) List all movies with articles at Category:Films about bikers and delete. -- saberwyn 10:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. While the article Biker film (genre) may not yet be written, it seems to me to be a worthy subject.  This list will be a logical adjunct to any future article on the subject.  It may need editing, but that is not reason to delete it. - Smerdis of Tlön 15:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is worth keeping, it has it's relevances, and it is a genre.   T a r a m o o n    15:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep until we have an article on the Biker film genre, then it can me merged into that article. 96T 16:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Much as I am no fan of lists, at least this one is coherent and useful enough to merit inclusion. Arkyan 17:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and per Dacium. Whether or not it is coherent or useful does not mean it meets encyclopedic criteria. The means to determine inclusion of an entry is far too vague and open to debate. Agent 86 19:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Abstain for now, but perhaps preferable to the above suggestion of a category. The JPS talk to me  00:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a true type of film, and it is usually reasonably clear which films are included. It seems an unexpected oversight that WP doesnt have an article on the subject. This is different from the other AfDs being discussed here -- if it were a "List of films with motorcycles in them", then it would be suitable for deletion. DGG 00:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Could use more expansion of course and perhaps an explanation of the role of the bikes in the film. This could get a start on the article of the biker film genre as listed above. --Nehrams2020 05:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Nehrams2020. An explanation should be given and if the film contains biking only marginally, cleanup. Hoverfish Talk 07:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment For the article to be useful and not just a random list it needs a stricter definition. I can see how a list of films centered around biker culture would be valuable. In my opinion it is the current definition that makes the list bad. Pax:Vobiscum 22:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - per WP:LIST: information and navigation. Being a biker film is sufficient commonality.  Notable genre, too. - Peregrine Fisher 02:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - per reasons here and at auto-racing deletion.--JayHenry 21:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - put maybe just a new category would be better--JForget 00:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Someone write the Biker Film genre article, then link to notable films.--Absurdist 01:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - there now exists a new article: Outlaw biker film. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 03:01, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.